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Hello!

This is not a short answer test. It looks like a cloze type question consisting of 6 sub-questions of the short answer type.

a- You seem to have misunderstood the meaning of the number which comes immediately after the opening curled brace, as in {1:SHORTANWER: ... }, {2:SHORTANWER: ... } etc. This number is not a sub-question number, but it gives the respective value or weight of each sub-question in your cloze question. If all your short answer sub-questions have the same value, then you should write either 1 or nothing there, e.g. {1:SHORTANWER: ... }, {1:SHORTANWER: ... }, or simply {:SHORTANWER: ... }, {:SHORTANWER: ... }, etc.

b- In order for us to be able to help you we need to have not a screen shot but the actual contents of the code of your cloze-type question. There are 2 ways to do this.

c. First scenario

  1. Create a new category, call it e.g. "my_problem_question" and move your problem question (or a copy of it) to that category.
  2. Export the my_problem_question category using the Moodle XML Format
  3. Click on "Click to download the exported category file" to save it to your computer
  4. Attach file quiz-xxxx-my_problem_question-yyyymmddd-hhmm.xml to a message on this forum so we can examine it.
d. Second scenario
  1. Edit your problem question
  2. In the HTML editor, click on the Toggle HTML source button
  3. in the HTML code, copy all
  4. paste into a simple text editor, e.g. Windows notepad
  5. save as my_problem_question.txt
  6. attach file my_problem_question.txt to a message on this forum

Finally I have scanned your attached screenshot with an OCR program, re-injected the resulting text into a cloze question and am attaching a screenshot of the result, which apparently works (although I can't guarantee the correctness of the Hungarian text!).

Joseph

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Stephen,

This is an excellent suggestion, however it is not currently possible in Moodle.

When a quiz's settings are such that Students may review: Responses, Scores, Feedback & Answers, then, for reviewing of Multiple Choice questions, it would make sense to display the feedback messages for all the questions, regardless of the student's actual choice.

The (pedagogic) reason being that the student should know not only why the correct choice is correct but why the wrong choices are wrong. Of course, this option is of interest only for teachers who, like myself, use quizzes for learning purposes, not for testing purposes.

If you are able/allowed to hack your Moodle core files, here's how to obtain what you wish (tested on Moodle 1.6.3). In file moodle/question/type/multichoice/questiontype.php, around line 315, change this:

$a->feedback = (($options->feedback || $options->correct_responses) && $checked) ? $feedback = format_text($answer->feedback, true, $formatoptions, $cmoptions->course) : '';

to that:

$a->feedback = (($options->feedback || $options->correct_responses) && ($checked || $options->readonly)) ? $feedback = format_text($answer->feedback, true, $formatoptions, $cmoptions->course) : '';

See result on attached screenshot.

If this solution is satisfactory for a number of users, maybe I could file an improvement bug report for it.

Joseph

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Hi Peter.

> "My belief is that CMS/VLE's can be mined to produce real evidence of student learning etc."

I would be very cautious about any system which pretends to produce "real evidence of learning". We still don't know much about how learning takes place and we can only measure some outcomes of learning.

> Here's my disclaimer/caveat: there could be a terrible abuse of this data mining and analysis if it was used to determine who the "good" teachers were..."

While Moodle data mining can be quite useful to teachers to find out how the resources & activities in their courses are actually used by their students, I totally agree that that kind of data might be abused in the hands of the administration at large. Should I hear that my university's Moodle site is being monitored and "data mined" by our administration, I would stop using it immediately.angry

All the best,

Joseph