In 1.8.3 this is all we see:
Is it just our particular installation or has the forum grading feature devolved into a less useful tool?
If so, does this mean that to restrict grading to the instructor and prevent students from seeing any but their own forum grades, an instructor would NOT check Rate Forums but use an Offline Assignment in the gradebook to essentially grade forums manually?
Hope I'm misreading this as it would seem to be a great leap backward. The Blackboard forum grading is a breeze now, whereas Moodle's appears to have become almost a workaround.
Appreciate anything you can offer,
Lane in Charlotte, NC
...and I might add...that's an "improvement" just in case that's not clear to some
Yea...that's it...you figured me out
That's right. In order for Teachers to see the Override tab, your Administrator needs to do two things:
- Allow Teacher to override Student in the Allow overrides table
- Give Teachers permission to "Override permissions for others"
Let me see if I understand this correctly. In Moodle 1.8.3 instructors have lost the default ability to prevent students from rating/grading others' discussion posts, rendering instructor rating/grading impossible without creating a companion item in the gradebook for manually entering such grades.
Nor can instructors restrict a student to view only their discussion grade.
The only way this can be changed if if instructors are given global override permissions that entail "very dangerous" security risks.
If this is correct, then I question whether 1.8.3 should be called an upgrade, considering how important discussion is in online learning. I am one of the people who are not finding "that's an "improvement" just in case that's not clear to some."
Am I missing some offsetting benefits to this strategy? I don't think I'm a naturally negative person, but I am discouraged by this situation.
Seems to me your understanding is "spot on".
I think many people who actually use this everyday to "facilitate real classes" see things a little differently from people who don't "facilitate real classes" with it. There seems to be a disconnect between the concept of an effective "online classroom" and the development of the online classroom software.
In truth, I am keen to find a completely different way to grade forum posts than to use ratings. I thought this sounded like an interesting solution.
You haven't lost the ability to do anything. You are simply doing using a different mechanism (roles and capabilities).
I would rather have the flexibility of the roles and capabilities than the old fixed roles system. Having said that, I think there are some problems with roles that need to be addressed. The risks currently associated with overriding are (in my opinion) bugs that should be fixed. Overriding a role should be no more risky than assigning one.