Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

by Samuli Karevaara -
Number of replies: 5

I'm trying to set up something that is seemingly trivial: a scale of "Pass, Fail" that could be used in progress reports, showing a red fail if the assignment has received a grading "Fail". However, I'm unable to get it to work. No matter what grades I give, the assignment shows as "Pass" to the student and in the completion progress reports.

I tried making the scale "Pass,Fail", as "Fail,Pass" and as "0,1". I set the "Grade to pass" at "1.0", but still with a grade 0 the student was marked as having a "Passing grade". What am I doing wrong?

I'm using Moodle 3.3.6.

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Re: Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

by Rebecca Ogrady-Marshall -

Hi Samuli,

Are you using max and min grades (1,0)?

Have you set the course unit grade to your pass grade?  (unit completion)



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Re: Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

by Shirley Gregorczyk -
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Hello Samuli,

The Scale settings are for competencies, not for the grades. Navigate to your quiz, Select the Gradebook setup link , then select the Letters link. Adjust the current (default) letter grades as needed and Save.

I am changing all of my numeric grades to  simple pass/fail values.

Also, from the Quiz activity select the Edit settings link,  and set the Grade>Grade to pass value as needed.

Best Regards,

Shirley

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Re: Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

by Samuli Karevaara -

Thanks Shirley, I tried implementing your suggestions and I appreciate the help. The test cases that I have deal with the Assignment activity. I did try to to set the Grade setting "Grade to pass" to "1.00". And as far as I understand, the scales can also be used in grading, not just for competencies?

"Grade Type


There are 4 grade types:

  • None - No grading possible
  • Value - A numerical value with a maximum and minimum
  • Scale - An item in a list
  • Text - Feedback only

Only value and scale grade types may be aggregated. The grade type for an activity-based grade item is set on the activity settings page."

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Re: Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

by Sven Erlic -

I have the same problem. Did you eventually work it out? Is there a solution or does the grade have to be numerical to work?

The only way around it, that I found, was to set the "Activity Completion" to "Students can manually mark the activity as completed"

Because if you are using the scale type grade - the activity will show as completed just by having attempted the assignment module. I can not see why that would be thought to be useful. 


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Re: Using Scales with "Grade to pass"?

by Samuli Karevaara -

Hi Sven! Sorry, I missed this here, but yes, eventually I was able to get this to work. There was two major points in the end that had to be just right

1) Scale goes from Fail to Pass, so a scale with the name "Pass / Fail" must have its items as "fail,pass"

2) Scale grades start from 1, not 0 as I though. So the above scale would need a passing grade of "2" and not 1 as I initially had.

Hope this helps!

Credits for the final information bits to Dave Foord at the comment section in Completion progress block pages at https://moodle.org/plugins/block_completion_progress