Top Tech Tools to Build a Learning Platform

Top Tech Tools to Build a Learning Platform

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Hello All,

Over the course of 10 years we have built and refined an amazing K-12 Learning Platform that revolves around a few core open source projects.  These tools allow us to provide students and teachers with a very robust and engaging learning environment. 

With Moodle 3.3, Mahara, BigBlueButton, H5P, and SIS Gradebook integration we have a slam dunk for blended learning.  We made several significant enhancements to Moodle with our theme and enrollment plugin so that we could streamline getting from the homepage to learning in a system that must account for 5 year olds on up to 18 year olds!  

If you are in K-12 we would love to hear from you on ways you have used Moodle to enhance learning in your district.  Please share your tips and tricks.


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HI Chris, I would suggest that you have gone an awful lot further down a path that I have been advocating for the last decade or so than anyone else I know has. I have come and looked at this post several times now, and thought "Wow!" 

I believe that this is a wonderful innovation that would benefit the entire world's school systems, if people were open to it. There is the rub, how did your school district decide to move in this direction? How did it come together? What forces were at play to create that initial impetus to get started? What sort of team was put together to make it all work? One person's vision or a group decision? These an an awful lot more questions are all important, so if you would spend a little time, perhaps you could share some thoughts on how to achieve this and be an "evangelical" in imaginative use of technologies at the same time. I for one would love to hear your story.    

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Colin,

Our Moodle story began when a group of about 5 teachers decided that Moodle was a better platform than Blackboard (Which the county provided for free to any teacher).  We setup Moodle and away we went.  

I work for Dearborn Public Schools.  We have about 20,000 students.  Unlike most district's(due to budgets) they hired someone to help build the servers, operate them, and build platforms for people to use.  That's my job.  The district gave us A LOT of freedom to try stuff.  Very progressive.  I have a "we can do that" attitude.  I love to learn new things.  We have the infrastructure with VMWare and other stuff that I am like a kid in the candy store when it comes to using open source stuff.  I was originally hired to help maintain websites for our schools.   I did everything from going out to classrooms to train teachers, district professional development, maintain servers, step sheets, etc.  I wanted to be part of the educational process and not just a techy.

My boss always says "You are either investing in yourself or investing in someone else".  

"See, I’ve always proposed that you are investing in something. You are investing your time, your energy, your efforts, your thoughts, your money and more. The question for me has always been are you investing in yourself or in someone else. Now to be clear, it is necessary to invest in others. There is no way that you can do everything your self. However, for really important things, I generally prefer to invest in us. I consider lesson delivery pretty important. So I invested in us. " Troy Patterson blog post


We try to think long term.  We like investing in skills and tools that we can control so that we can ensure long term use.  No matter what LMS you use, it generally takes at least 3 years to scratch below the surface and get to the deeper level thinking we all seek.  That only happens because teachers know you are not switching platforms when the contract expires and they invest in learning the tool.  Many of the innovative things we do in our district come from just trying it out or from suggestions or feedback from teachers.  There is no magical moment when we got started.  It wasn't like a light bulb went off and everyone was on-board.  It's been a slow and persistent effort.  It also helps when a district invests in the tool and does stuff like:

  • Integrate Moodle Gradebook with Student Info System so it saves teachers time in exporting grades for report cards.
  • Integrate the logins with the district accounts such as LDAP
  • Allow sharing across the platform with Quizzes and other assignments (we created a special role for this)
  • Make the site look good and get students from the homepage to learning as fast as possible.  We developed several themes along the way and are currently rocking Fordson and Easy Enrollment Plugin to make things super fast and easy on teachers.  

Probably our guiding principal would be:  Is this the right thing to do for students?  And if it is then make it a priority.

I don't think there is one person or one vision but we have a common goal to help students learn.  My current boss, Troy Patterson has a bunch of insight on what we are trying to accomplish and why.  He's probably best at articulating a mission and goals for long term teacher and student success.  Here are some links:

And new within the last couple of years we hired 2 tech coaches to provide classroom instruction and training for teachers.  They service 25+ schools and have a laser-like focus on improving student learning using technology.  If you read some of the links above you'd know how we feel about all these new tools popping up.  Kids spend more time learning each new tool than they do with the process of learning.  Here are some things from our tech coaches:

I would say in the last 5 years we've developed a pretty good team to make Moodle work for our district.  We have a strong mix of people who step above and beyond the scope of work to complement, support, and push forward with tools that help students.  There's our director who sets the charge and empowers us to do more.  There's a new programmer we hired and myself who bang on the code and servers.  And then the tech coaches are out spreading the news, teaching, and training.  The tech coaches also provide valuable feedback to the technical people and we make stuff they need for class instruction.

On top of Moodle we are heavily invested in Wordpress with over 1800 classroom websites created by teachers: https://iblog.dearbornschools.org/  and for students we use: https://studentsites.dearbornschools.org/.  Unlimited district-provided web authoring.   Everything from classroom to sports and clubs is housed on Wordpress.  We use many open source products.  Even our helpdesk ticketing is open source. 

When you stick with one tool things can begin to snowball.  You can build common skills, common tools, and move away from learning tools and get to the business of real learning.  We saw real value in the tools Moodle offered.  We are committed to making it better for our staff and students.  We also saw that Moodle wasn't tied to limited and often shrinking budgets.  We are investing in ourselves for the success of our staff and students when it comes to on online learning tool. 

Well, that was pretty long-winded but if you follow the links and see what we are doing I think you can see our principals and direction we want to take our district.  

Chris

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I am absolutely gobsmacked here, a rare occurrence for me, believe me...微笑 

This is the kind of thinking that is really progressive, it is risk taking and planning and mixing and matching and all sorts at the same time. It is not future proofing, but is future making. Can I come and work in the Dearborn School System, please? 

We have an age of risk aversion here, everything is tied up in "risk assessment" when a simple excursion from a school takes up about 9 pages of paperwork, several cross signatories and full medical disclosures and vehicle certifications and whatnot. It is killing us, but something like you have is so far away from the current culture here that it is not even a blip on our radar. 

Stick with it, and be a world beater. 

I hope you don't mind, but your video is going to be on display for a lot of people in the next few weeks. All I can do is raise the idea of what's possible, and you have shown us all what that can be. Thank you.  


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We try things all the time.  Some fail miserably.  Some are ahead of where our teachers are at.  Some things just aren't quite useful at the moment and take a back seat.  The goal in any of this is to learn.  Something might not work out for teachers today, but tomorrow it could.  

However, it is the constant experimentation that leads to innovation.  Success is learning from failure not risk assessment.  Schools need to practice what they preach and be willing to invest in learning and seeing what technology can do. 

I'll throw out our "pinterest" clone for our teachers as one such example of something incubating.  We built a pinterest clone using Wordpress and a plugin.  http://pinit.dearbornschools.org/  It's neat.  It's kinda cool.  But it's only used by a few teachers. 

This isn't about rolling out a new tool and making every teacher use it.  This is about learning.  This is exploring new things.  Sometimes it's just to see what we can do because I need to stay sharp and try new things. Who knows.  We might get more teachers using it if we promote it more but for now we are looking for how it might work in a classroom if at all. You don't know unless you try.  And while it may not work out for teachers we might find a use for students.  It may not even work out as trying to re-create pinterest.  We just might need this functionality for an entirely different purpose in the future.

Exploring and experimenting is what gives us the background knowledge to make great things further down the road.  


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Excellent Chris!!

Though most of us are using those but definitely not to the extent you have shown in the video.

Truly awesome!!


Thanks again!

Mihir

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Just this past week we also built something that we have tinkered with on and off since 2013.  We took Wordpress and setup Pressbooks plugin for eBook Authoring.  We integrate it with Moodle using the Wordpress LTI provider plugin so that once it is added to a course the students click and can become authors for the Pressbook/Wordpress site.    

We now see a push for open textbooks, resources, etc.  This integration will give us the ability to create and distribute ePubs, PDF, and interactive web materials for students.  So our tinkering back in 2013 now seems like we might see some usage.  

So in addition to what was shown in the video we now have an OER authoring solution that is fully integrated with LTI access to Moodle.  I'll be posting a video soon and a write-up on that real soon.  


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Here is our first attempt at creating an OER tool that is fully integrated with Moodle via LTI.  Now that more people are talking about consuming and producing OER content this has sparked some interest on our part to revisit some things we've tried in the past. We used the Pressbooks plugin and Wordpress LTI plugin to allow users to go from Moodle to wordpress and create a book.  Wordpress/Pressbooks allows all kinds of useful tools including H5P integration so that the books can be rich and engaging.  Unfortunately H5P doesn't translate well to epub and pdf but they are working on solutions at Pressbooks (or at least it looks like it is on the roadmap).  

Here is a video of what we created last week:

Wordpress with the Wordpress LTI plugin + Pressbooks  to connect to Moodle. 

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There is excellent work going on at Dearborn - plus I have already been sharing your video about the tech tools as we are discussing using API for exporting scores into our LMS along with portfolios for both staff and students. The video was perfect timing.

When watching the second video, a quick shot got my attention at 3:39 when you were demonstrating Add an Activity or Resource. It is a subtle change, so I was wondering how you arranged your Activities into two separate groups LEARNING TOOLS and ACTIVITIES? 

Some of the Top (activities) Tools are located at the bottom of the list instead of the top four. Just would like to make those activities more visible to the teachers to encourage the use of lesson and workshop activities.

Again thanks for all that you have contributed...

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That is a new feature of the Fordson theme.  Off github someone had forked Fordson and I saw they had made this change. I brought it into the theme and now we can customize the Activity/Resource window.  

You can totally arrange how you want the activities to appear and even hide some from regular users but allow site admins and managers to see everything. 

See my administration screenshot to understand how I made the Activity Resource window look like your screenshot. 

Whatever is in the comma-separated list will be placed in the Top Tools area.  You can put any activity or resource there by using the proper name for the activity.  We focus on Assignment, Quizzes, Lessons, and Workshop.  I'm also thinking I might need to add Glossary, H5P, and possibly database for us.  I just don't want the top items to get crowded.  I might add H5P as that is one heck of a plugin!

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Perfect timing - just in the process of getting ready to update production - so loaded the newest fordson theme in QA and with your instructions separated the Add an activity or resource. I agree you do not want the top to get overcrowded.

It would be nice to have the flexibly to add a couple of other categories like:

COMMUNICATION TOOLS
  • BigBlueButtonBN
  • Chat
  • Forums
COLLABORATION TOOLS

Sort of based from that old Moodle explained with Legos

 

However most of those tools could fit in a couple of categories instead of a single one.

Another plus is that, we have had to wait until this update to get back to using H5P - so lots to look forward to for the rest of the school year.

Thanks again...

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Dave,

Really nice stuff you've done with your Moodle site.  You've taken html code and buttons to a new level.  I was poking around on your site and it looks like you got some amazing stuff going on.  

I love how you used the Fordson theme's custom images for courses.  The images you used are exactly what I was thinking when implementing this.  Certain courses might use a certain color or tint such as red = science, green= math, orange = language arts, etc.  The images can be used to visually group types of courses.  You use some custom made images that are really nice on the professional learning pages.

The start of the "teacher marketplace" is also very interesting.  A repository for common modules and activities.  All great stuff.

You've done one heck of a job!  I didn't want to post a link to your site, but if you are so inclined please do so.  Visually as well as content you have a great site and is an inspiration for what can be done with Moodle for K-12.

-Chris

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Thanks for the comment 滿意. We were hoping that the alert-colors with bootstrap would help users to distinguish which content standards they were viewing. Plus the buttons were added to make navigation a little more obvious. 

Bismarck Public School District has been using Moodle Learnbps a little longer than 9 years. We started by using Moodle to support our Professional Learning Communities (PLC) working on the prioritization and deconstruction of subject content standards. This is what's nice about Moodle is that the LMS is flexible and scalable to evolve into the current digital workspaces BPS-Standards for providing a consistent, clear understanding of what students are expected to learn. These Subject Standards workspaces consist of Book Module and Global Glossaries, which auto-link the standards info through out the site. Plus Moodle integrates with our Student Information System, so when parents have a clearer picture of what a standard score represents.

We started with only a couple of teachers using Moodle with their students and currently have 77 visible courses being used by over 1500 student daily. This is about 25% of our secondary students grades 6-12. So we are making progress and slowly growing from year to year. Our next hope is that with the development of the Learnbps MarketPlace we can get that next large group of teachers (the early adaptors) to start using Moodle by providing a "one-stop shop" hub where they can add activities and resources to their sharing cart to easily add to their own courses.

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Hi Chris,

I set-up a multi site instance of Wordpress and configured it, but when I tried to install the plugin that you recommend here: https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=232060 it doesn't seem to work. Do you have any tips?

I tried to follow the on site instructions, but when I unpack the zip file, I do not seem to end up with the directories indicated in the instructions.

Any tips would be really helpful.
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Hi Chris,

This is simply Wow.. Awesome work. Thanks a ton for sharing it.

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Let's add one more thing to the top tech tools to build a Learning Platform...  a free lockdown testing browser for Chromebooks that is tightly integrated with our Fordson theme and easy to deploy via Google for Education Managed devices.  

No matter how great a LMS is, a K-12 teacher will always ask..."But can the students cheat?".  

We hear their concerns and just recently we developed an answer - an easy to use Chromebook App.  

We call it the iLearn Secure Browser App for chromebooks.  It consists of 2 new plugins for the Fordson theme which work together to provide a secure and trusted assessment tool.  In a matter of 15 minutes we deployed the app to over 11,000 chromebooks and had quizzes ready to be locked down with the click of a button.

Any Google for Education school that uses chromebooks and Moodle will want to use this if you are concerned about student cheating on assessments.  We even built an App configurator page where you can customize the features before deploying it to laptops.

Learn More:  ilearn Secure Browser Flyer   |   Ilearn Secure Browser Overview and Demo Video


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So it is about iPad vs. Chromebook after all?
Watch "Why BYOD is Bad for Schools" .
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While the guy is talking some sense, I suspect he is being a little simplistic in some areas but has raised a number of really interesting points. Most school BYOD plans I have been involved in have never solved the issue of which device students have. This has been a source of my growing cynicism about how school administration really works as most of them have just not tackled the issue.  Every time I have recommended a preferred device, it's "Oh no, we can't do that, we can't tell them what to buy." At one school this resulted in such a variety of devices the program was actually unworkable yet the school admin didn't understand the causes of its failure. (One kid had a 19" high end gaming laptop, at the other end, another had a Samsung mini tablet, so there was no consistency. Parents were told to consider battery life, the longer the better, but who pays attention?)      

I prefer the Chromebook/Google Apps combination, but as was pointed out, the requirements of curriculum could dictate choice. You want students to develop coding skills of some description, then provide a PaaS, not that difficult to set up, surely? It doesn't matter which device you use.  

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Facebook is not one of them! [OT]

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Still "iPad vs. Chromebook" - no room for Facebook. (Sorry, Zuck!)

The seed of rebellion was planted in classrooms. It grew in kitchens and living rooms, in conversations between students and their parents.
https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/04/22/0316220/kansas-towns-rebel-against-zuckerberg-funded-school-programs
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Chromebook unlocked (officailly)

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So the Chromebook is getting useful for a whole range of users outside the school.

All Chromebooks Will Also Be Linux Laptops Going Forward
https://www.zdnet.com/article/all-chromebooks-will-also-be-linux-laptops-going-forward/
(found in https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/05/09/1724228/all-chromebooks-will-also-be-linux-laptops-going-forward)
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A bit more for 2019 for us:

  • We are in the process of piloting and possibly paying for the Hypothesis LTI integration with Moodle.  This will allow for seamless SSO from Moodle to hypothesis for super powerful PDF and web page Annotation capabilities.  https://web.hypothes.is/education/lms/
  • ReadSeed is a new reading workshop that utilizes Amazon voice recognition to help teachers better work with students to build stronger reading skills.  Texts are grade level appropriate and spot on with grading tools and marking tools in the reading exercise. https://readseed.org/
  • LDAP User Sync and Google Sign On - We synced our entire user base to Moodle via LDAP and then allowed users to login with Google Accounts.  This means point-and-click login for everyone and especially 5 year olds who we want to support using Moodle.  This is by far the best login method for any school using Chromebooks and Google education.
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> We synced our entire user base to Moodle via LDAP and then allowed users to login with Google Accounts. This means point-and-click login for everyone and especially 5 year olds who we want to support using Moodle.

And vice versa. The 5 year olds getting sucked by Google?

It is unfortunate that this is the showcase application for Moodle advocacy.
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Visvanath,
Have you ever tried to get 5 year olds - who don't speak the same language and some who cannot even read - to login to a computer with a username and password?
If you did you would change your tune really quick!!! Just a heads up, it can take upwards of 30 minutes just to get everyone logged in to the computers and then logged in again to Moodle.

Then try getting 25-30 of them to do so at the same time. It's pure chaos. This is our life. We live and breathe it every day. We see the kids frustration. We see the teacher frazzled. We also see what role technology plays in our schools and the benefits of having a real LMS like Moodle and not a cheap substitute like G Classroom.

Google and Oauth2 has provided much needed relief for our users. It's not everything but it is part of the puzzle in making Moodle more appealing to attract teacher investment in using it. Making Moodle easier to use, increasing value adds for teachers and students, providing robust teaching and learning opportunities, and most of all... supporting and advocating for the open source community is what we are about.

Not everything Google does is inherently evil. There needs to be balance for everything.
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'Have you ever tried to get 5 year olds - who don't speak the same language and some who cannot even read '
I found it a challenge with 16 year olds who all spoke the same language. Standard conversation
Me: Everyone has the same password, which is the word password
Student: The password doesn't work
Me: let me try (logs them in)
Student: Why did the password work for you and not me
Me: Because I have magic teacher fingers

It could easily take around 10 minutes to get 18 students logged for the first time.

'Not everything Google does is inherently evil'
Most of what they do has an element of surveillance, so most of it is a bit evil'
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My standard response is "computers are stupid; if you put rubbish into them you get rubbish out... So, yes; you typed the password incorrectly!"
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>> Not everything Google does is inherently evil

> Most of what they do has an element of surveillance, so most of it is a bit evil'

The surveillance part is common knowledge, but how brazen Google is? This appeared today in /.:
https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/12/14/1453216/google-has-100-for-teachers-who-steer-20-children-to-google-cs-first
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Continental divide

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The article above, https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/12/14/1453216/google-has-100-for-teachers-who-steer-20-children-to-google-cs-first, made me realize how deep the continental divide is. On my side that kind of obvious bribery is unthinkable, definitely not up to the ethical standards of teachers.

I remember an incident 15 years ago, in the local town council. It was the time the Microsoft Windows (XP) and Office (2003) licenses were major expenses in the education sector (and also elsewhere) and the availability of Open Source made a new awareness. Long story, but the then education secretary (Schulvorsteherin) introduced a new licensing scheme. One selling argument was that the teachers were allowed to install the software on their home computers free. (Remember, these were PCs, and schools provided them.) She came under heavy criticism for that (for a reason).

For me, that partly explains why Google has won the US K12 sector.
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You describe my grade 9s perfectly Chris, I didn't know you knew them......smile
@Marcus, it gets really bad when I write it up on a white board and they still can't log in. 
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Marcus, Jon and Colin

I find your "my kids are dumber than yous" posts disdainful.

Not only that, don't forget, who put them in that position?
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'I find your "my kids are dumber than yous" posts disdainful.'
I would as well, but that is neither the wording nor the intention of what I wrote. The human brain is an ignoring device not a learning device and I would be more likely than an average person to type in a password wrong no matter how simple it was. Its about people following what seem to be simple instructions not about students or 'dumb' students.

The human brain is tuned to ignore most stuff because most stuff doesn't matter, which is an issue which teachers need to deal with. My teaching superpower was that I cannot concentrate well, which means that I assume that students cannot either and so prepared sessions on that basis.
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@Marcus, agreed.
@Visvanath, I am suggesting that 14-15yr olds have a habit of not listening. They can do amazing things on their laptops if I get out of the way, but they bungle simple instructions. They're growing up, and that is what they do. Some are real good at not listening and take a while to start listening again, others get over it quickly. Remember Mark Twain.

But we're getting off topic
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Hi Marcus and Colin
Cc Jon

Sorry for my wording. I summarized the combined effect of all three messages, which was unnecessary. The originals are all there in the forum thread.

And that took us off the main track (from my point of view), https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=358911#p1591049. So, a double mistake. Hope, there'll still be useful input.
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Certainly not my intention in my message; nor I believe, what it conveyed... It was meant as an amusing anecdote; nothing more. Apologies that you found it disdainful Visvanath.

Jon
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Re: Top Tech Tools to Build a Learning Platform

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Hi Jon, I'm glad that you didn't take my "strong interpretation" of your comments personally. As I wrote the others, "the combined effect of all three messages" rattled something.

@all, Now I know what that was. All, who teach the youth and young adults (in the digitized world) complain how distracted they are. Rather than being cynical about it we need to seriously search for its cause. This news crossed my radar as it appeared today: Rog Srigley, writer who teaches at Humber College and Laurentian University, offered his students extra credit if they would give him their phones for nine days and write about living without them. "What they wrote was remarkable, and remarkably consistent," he writes.

He is still privileged. His students, in their early 20s, attending a philosophy class, These university students, given the chance to say what they felt, didn't gracefully submit to the tech industry and its devices. Are we less lucky? What can we do about it?

Source: https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/19/12/27/2136247/i-asked-my-students-to-turn-in-their-cellphones-and-write-about-living-without-them
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Re: Top Tech Tools to Build a Learning Platform

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Hi Chris

Thanks for providing those details. I went through the whole thread again and realized that our working environments are so different that we could be on two different planets. To count the major ones: cultural - US vs. Continent, level - public school vs. tertiary, size - 20 k upwards vs. institutions with a couple of thousand affiliated persons each and finally - free market vs. mostly state governed. I appreciate that your team has built a respectable eco system based on Free and Open Source Software. But there is this corner, Google to be specific, which is contentious.

I don't know how deep your collaboration with Google is. So I try to make my beliefs "in bullet point form" independently whether they apply to your project or not.

a. Small kids, preschool, school beginners, do not belong to the computer and Internet. Give them a childhood! Not only as a present, but also for their health. Healthy childhood is a condition to become strong adults.

b. In places where you have to make exceptions, no money of (analog) material, pleasant classrooms, etc. use devices and infrastructure of your own. Meaning up to the state level. Don't outsource to the BIG (Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, Facebook). Heralding the kids whose responsibility is on you to data kraken is unethical. Those corporations will not release them their whole lives.

Although I managed to narrow down the topics to two, each of them are too big to handle in a hit-and-run type of a forum we are in. Not only too big, anybody plan to just throw what comes to one's mind and continue, that person is not taking it seriously. In any case, you will understand, why I an not keen on continuing the discussion. As I said, there are more positive things in your project, I believe, to waste time in something which can not be changed.

One passing note though: If your project gets funding or other support from Google, please state them for the sake of transparency.
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Re: Top Tech Tools to Build a Learning Platform

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I have to agree that kids should not be using technology as we are currently using it, but this is more an issue of non-educators making education decisions, something that happens all the time here and ends up badly every time.
Also agree outsourcing to BIG is a longer term disaster in slow motion.

Again, getting off topic here.
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No Colin you are wrong, the solution to education is giving out more iPads < / humour >
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Humour? What kind of humour? Or is this the elephant in the room?

How classroom technology is holding students back
Educators love digital devices, but there’s little evidence they help children - especially those who most need help.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614893/classroom-technology-holding-students-back-edtech-kids-education/

(found in, where else, on /. today https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/12/19/168220/how-classroom-technology-is-holding-students-back )
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Surveillance Giants: How the business model of Google and Facebook threatens human rights

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Nothing new to the experienced crowd here. For the others here is a comprehensive report put together by the Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/11/google-facebook-surveillance-privacy/ watch for the full 60 page report "Surveillance Giants: How the business model of Google and Facebook threatens human rights" https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/pol30/1404/2019/en/ at the bottom of the article.
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I know, I can't move the staunch googlers here. But this bomb shell dropped withing days, this time on BBC - not in slashdot, I thought of adding that too:
Ex-Google exec Ross LaJeunesse savages firm on human rights 2 January 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50976764
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Am I the only person concerned here?
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/20/02/21/0214203/new-mexico-ag-sues-google-for-allegedly-collecting-location-data-contact-lists-from-students
Google spokesman Jose Castaneda said in a statement: "These claims are factually wrong. G Suite for Education allows schools to control account access and requires that schools obtain parental consent when necessary. We do not use personal information from users in primary and secondary schools to target ads. School districts can decide how best to use Google for Education in their classrooms and we are committed to partnering with them."
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That's interesting Visvanath, and I for one am very sceptical about how big business is "honest and forthright" and "protecting privacy" and how the interplay between big business and a nation's intelligence services seems to always favour the existing establishment. (Look at how various listening stations have been used by the CIA and NSA to make sure the US secured large armaments, construction and shipping contracts since the 1960s. Some of them are well documented and what was missed?) Industrial espionage has always been a feature of national relations, only now, with the advent of the 'Net, it is rapidly becoming the norm. Unfortunately, even if the NM AG proves their case, not a lot is going to happen. Besides, it's all fake news.
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'Am I the only person concerned here?'
No
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The thread is really interesting since only a couple of weeks back an interesting article was published here in Switzerland entitled "The spy in the classroom".
Essentially they were talking about Google, MS and FaceBook along with Amazon etc.
Basically we have a blanket ban on the use of any cloud service provider, especially those in the US. We have a Swiss based university service which has based its cloud storage system on OwnCloud, and has really tight regulation on other services that are provided such as e-portfolios etc.
For e-assessment the University of Zürich developed the Safe Exam Browser, https://safeexambrowser.org/news_en.html, and our own university developed the learn stick, https://www.imedias.ch/themen/lernstick/index.cfm, both are PC lock-down tools that limit the user to what they can access, and what they can do on their PC.
I'm sorry the Learn-Stick text is in German, but you can probably get the gist through an online translation tool.
Essential though, the Learn-Stick works by having Linux installed on the stick and the requisite tools and settings. A master stick is produced and then the content is duplicated using a special copying bank which allows for up to 20 sticks to be produced from one master.
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Hi Paul

Thanks for your support. I felt like I am telling people what they do not want to hear. Incidentally have an association to almost every topic you mentioned. Just kidding, we work in the same education environment.

On the BIG Four being "The spy in the classroom": They are not really the spies we know from spy novels. Rather huge pimps. They trade human flesh in the analog world, intimate data in the digital world. I know, it sounds egregious, how dare to call such powerful people pimps. But the history learned us, the most powerful in the New World, for example, were the racketeers we know since the God Father the latest.

The cloud service of the Swiss universities, it is the SWITCHdrive https://www.switch.ch/drive/, right? Do you have any numbers of the rel. usage of SWITCHdrive vs. Microsoft OneDrive in the Swiss Universities? I have the feeling, that the BIG have a direct line to the hearts of the academia.

Yes, Moodle, Lernstick and the Safe Exam Browser make a beautiful Open Source trio. One drives the server, the other the client and the third a wrapper over the usual client-server-bridge. In my city, all the public schools use the Lernstick on student computers. Oddly, the software also belongs to political parties. This city Winterthur is socialist/leftist. So the Lernstick survived. In other cities, Solothurn for example, Open Source was thrown out once the power changed hands.

BTW, there is good documentation on Lernstick in english: https://www.digitale-nachhaltigkeit.unibe.ch/services_and_support/lernstick/index_eng.html. Safe Exam Browser https://safeexambrowser.org is better known on moodle.org.
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Hi Visvanath @Paul, the benefit of living in an independent minded nation like Switzerland is obvious, the authorities there are not afraid of making their own decisions. In Oz, we have a long term dependency on Britian and the US that has never matched the perception of indepence we talk about. In short, our political, economic, academic and social leaders are just not interested in anything Australian, it can't possibly be good enough, or we can't compete, or that old standby "why reinvent the wheel?" We could do it, if we wanted to, but we have to develop an entirely different mindset and that just ain't gunna happen.
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