Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -
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Has anyone used/investigated Adapt?

http://www.kineo.com/nz/services/elearning/authoring-tools/adapt

"Adapt is an open source tool for multi-device, mobile learning: a responsive elearning design framework founded by Kineo. It enables you to design a single piece of elearning in HTML5 that will run on multiple devices, including desktops, smartphones and tablets"

A developers summary: https://community.adaptlearning.org/course/view.php?id=2
Community page: https://community.adaptlearning.org/

Authoring tool: " . . . To develop a freely available authoring tool for organisations that wish to develop their own responsive e-learning content, specifically those in education but also commercial companies and public organisations"

Timeline: https://community.adaptlearning.org/mod/page/view.php?id=14

Just curious.

-Derek

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Matt Bury -
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Hi Derek,

Haven't tried it (yet) but it looks interesting. It looks like Adapt are in the process of building a bunch of components for it: https://github.com/adaptlearning and everything seems to be GPL3 licenced.

It's owned by a Brighton based elearning company, Kineo, who were bought a couple of years back by City & Guilds. City & Guilds core interests are in providing education, training, and accreditation services which I think at least partly explains why they're going the FOSS route with this project.

Looking at the documentation, it seems to be very much aimed at developers at this point with much of the work done through the command line, enough to send most IDs, learning content developers, and curriculum developers running for cover.

If they can develop it into a GUI-centric WYSIWYG IDE like other rapid elearning IDEs, e.g. Adobe Captivate and Raptivity, it think it could be another "feather in the cap" for FOSS. Let's see how much time, effort, and resources City & Guilds are prepared to put into it.

I wonder if the OU and other elearning oriented organisations would be interested in supporting it? It could save them a lot of money on per-seat licences for commercial IDEs and make it easier for anyone who's interested to get involved in developing learning content without having to shell out $1000s just to get started.

It'd be nice to see it succeed smile

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Jez H -

This looks really interesting, quite different from anything else I have seen, will definitely have a play with that when I get time.

Have you ever looked at Xerte? That is another OS authoring tool which has been going for some time:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/index.aspx

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

There seems to have been a little slippage in this (Q1-2 2014 has become 2014) but there is a lot of coder here: https://github.com/adaptlearning

Looks like an initial version of the Authoring tool - see https://github.com/adaptlearning/adapt_authoring

If anyone installs this and has a play, I'd love to know.

It looks really interesting.

-Derek

The caveat is this, that for nlow you still need access to a developer: (from https://community.adaptlearning.org/mod/page/view.php?id=14)

Adapt Authoring Tool

We have defined the authoring tool requirements and are currently designing and developing it.

We are working towards the following goals and timelines:

  • We are aiming to produce version 0.1 of the Adapt authoring tool within Q1/Q2 2014. We expect this release will be minimal and still require end users to have access to developers. Our intention with release is to start using this in production and gather a user community of early adopters, who are also able to help guide us along to version 1.0 via a number of interim releases.
  • Version 1.0 of the Adapt authoring tool will be the first official release aimed at non-technical end users. This will still take a while to deliver.



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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Mark Andrews -

Hi all,

I've been playing with Adapt for the last few weeks and absolutely love it - The platform has great potential for delivering some really neat online learning; in-page quizzes, adaptable design and enhanced tracking (if wanted)

The authoring tool is still very much in beta, so not all areas work but the bit that do make producing content really easy.

Install it and have a play, installation is quite easy just follow the instructions on the github page: https://github.com/adaptlearning/adapt_authoring

Unfortunately i'm not able to share the output i've created due to the content within it but am more than happy to speak to others who are interested in the tool.

Cheers

Mark

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Erwin Ancheta -

HI Derek,

I've heard about Adapt. I can see in your demo, it's an awesome tool you have there! smile It's a one full course in one activity page.

I just want to ask how does Moodle track the progress you have in this activity (SCORM package)? Does your quiz results can also be tracked in Moodle as well?

Thanks for sharing! I hope you can notice my message.

More Power! GOD BLESS!

Best Regards,
Erwin

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

Erwin, sorry to disappoint you.  It's not my demo, I have no affiliation with C&G, I was just interested in it.  You'd probably need to join the forum in Adapt community if you want to find an answer.

-Derek

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Mark Andrews -

Hi Erwin,

Yes you can insert Adapt content as a SCORM package into moodle and it tracks the users progress through the resource and save's state (if that is what's wanted).

Regards

Mark

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

Small update.

Recent Webinar (this month I believe):


They are still hoping to have this out in the wild in 2014:

https://community.adaptlearning.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=421

The authoring product is called "Adapt Builder"

-Derek

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Tonia Malone -

Mark,

So you have successfuly added an Adapt eLearning tool into Moodle via the SCORM package?

I have a faculty asking me about adding it to your Moodle 2.7 system with the SCORM package and I can't find anything on the Adapt website about how to add into Moodle.

Tonia

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Jez H -

I dont think its really productive yet.

You may want to take a look at the academic pricing on http://ispringsolutions.com/ for iSpring Suite and iSpring Presenter which allows you to create decent quality SCORM content quickly. You have to pay for it, but it would save you a lot of time. Worth testing the demo version, they run good webinars on request too and dont plague you with pushy follow ups.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Daryl Hedley -

Hi All,

Just stumbled upon this thread. If anyone is interested in using Adapt in a Moodle - check out Evolve by Appitierre. A little disclaimer, I was one of the founding developers of Adapt and Evolve. It has in-built Gamification, Interactive Video, Branching and a course wide assessment with analytics.

One thing I would say about Moodle and responsive content is that opening the course into a popup window (with SCORM finding the parent of parent window elements) works best for mobile devices. Would be great to see a fix for this in Moodle where we can have responsive content without the need for a popup on mobile devices. Is there plans for this?

Tonia, in Evolve we have a publish button and you can choose from some settings, a SCORM package (this includes the responsive popup and imsmanifest files) all published ready for Moodle.

Thanks,

Daryl

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

Questions.  Just in case TLDR;

  • Does anyone have a small demo Adapt creation I could have to test on a Moodle server?
  • What is the learning curve REALLY like for Adapt?

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Thank you Daryl.

Today I read this post: http://www.appitierre.com/blog/2015/07/30/the-adapt-learning-framework-and-the-elephant-in-the-room/ Quoting:

"This is where I have some good news. Here at Appitierre we’ve designed a tool from the ground up. Evolve is a user friendly tool, which requires no technical experience at all. You can create and produce courses in Adapt format without needed to change any Json or text files manually.

Adapt with Evolve is no longer just a framework, we’ve integrated to make it a full product.

Evolve is a commercial hosted product of some kind, as mentioned by Daryl above.  It is not open source. Quoting:


"Instead of the open source approach of releasing after a few months at a time, We charge only £30 a month for hosting Evolve, and included in that, we release updates to our customers every two weeks with great new features in every release. 

Adapt 2.0

Also this: https://community.adaptlearning.org/demo2/index.html
Adapt 2.0 showcase.

The examples look nice and they do work well on a mobile.  But if there are nice simple instructions to get setup with Adapt, I have not found them, and if there is anyone with this integrated easily into a Moodle site I've not seen it.

From GIT

Here is the install instructions:

https://github.com/adaptlearning/adapt_framework/blob/master/INSTALL.md 

From Quora:

I believe it will replace the current course development software or drive a change in the industry for rapid learning deployment. 

Take Keno out of the equation, Adapt is almost limitless in comparison too Articulate, Adobe, and simular products.  We paired it with our LMS wrapped in SCORM 1.2 and found with some work with our LMS provider Intellum, that not only could we deliver a scale training to any device but tracking between devices was now possible to start your training on the desktop and finish on your smart phone where you left off.

There is a steeper learning curve intial time investment, and you need a Adapt devolver to turn your ID'S work into reality or vendor like Keno, but the end result way out ways that investment.

I don't even know what a devolver is.

Having spent half a day yesterday looking at the Moodle Lesson I think I'll have to look elsewhere.  I have not really had any response on the Moodle Lesson forum to questions: I want just a nice simple elegant learning trajectory with a few pathways, but I'm struggling to get it looking OK in Lesson, to get any nice navigation and I can't use all the question types ie no drag and drop.

Questions

  • Does anyone have a small demo Adapt creation I could have to test on a Moodle server?
  • What is the learning curve REALLY like for Adapt?

-Derek





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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

A little update.

  • I have reactivated my forum membership at Adapt.  Four posts in 24 hours.
  • I have posted asking for some feedback on Adapt 2.0 installation.  (All the feedback on 1.0 was "it's difficult" we will fix it)
  • I have called a friend and asked for a quote to install (with me by his side) the tools.
    There are two options, detailed here:
  • Also asked on the Adapt forum if anyone had an output from Adapt to test it on Moodle.  (I see Mark has made some progress on this)

I have heard back on the forum with a sample SCORM item to test.

My impression is that it is a particular style of OS that is very tight and close to the chest of the developers, but I suspect this changes if you speak node.js, grunt, bash and GIT.  There is good docs, at least at a quick look - https://github.com/adaptlearning/adapt_authoring/wiki/Installing-the-Authoring-Tool.  Not much of a community mass yet on the forums.  Not a great lot of numbers either, but there may be a ton of lurkers.  Mainly "official type" flavour to things, for instance they refused to accept my gmail address in one signup, it only wanted a 'company address'.

I'll PM Matt and Mark and ask if they have done anything more.

I'm with Matt here: I hope these guys succeed, make $$ and so on.  I hope they have not mistaken 'clarity of goal' with 'doable'

-Derek

EDIT: checkout http://dev.tpp.ac.nz/course/view.php?id=16 for a Guest Access Moodle site with the Adapt SCORM demo from the Adapt forums  Please ignore ghastly design and colours. This is a dev site.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

Final Update (for now)

Adapt Authoring Tool free access onlne

  • Adapt community is running at about 7-10 posts a day
  • Today I joined another forum, to find this:
    From April this year, Learning Pool is going to do something about that which we think is going to be really significant – we’re making the Adapt Authoring Tool freely available online. Our commitment to this initiative is that Adapt OS will be completely free to users forever and only a quick click away. We think that by removing the pain of installation and maintenance we’ll get many more users of Adapt and the feedback and hopefully the support that generates will deliver enormous value back to the community and to the collaborators who work on the project.
    https://community.adaptlearning.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1163 
  • I quote: "Package your content as SCORM or xAPI"  I wonder what xAPI is?

Regards

-Derek
And just to be clear, I have no links or involvement at all with these guys.  I'm just trying to get some simple tools to do some nice things.

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by Just H -

I quote: "Package your content as SCORM or xAPI"  I wonder what xAPI is?

Not sure if being serious or not, but xAPI is what was/is known as Tincan - basically the evolution of SCORM and many think the replacement for an LMS (http://tincanapi.com/).

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Marcus Green -
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TinCan/xAPI may turn out to be useful and an improvement over SCORM but I cannot see it as a replacement for an LMS. 

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Just H -

Can't say I disagree with you there; personally I'm still not seeing the full benefits (or alleged benefits) of xAPI. I "think" I can see what they are on about, but having set up an LRS as an experiment hooked up to our Moodle install and a couple of other things... I'm missing the analysis side of it I think. My head hurts every time I take time out to look into it again.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

Nope, I was serious, I had just not used Google enough Just.

Today's update:

  • They have now got a public version of Adapt set up, but they are having trouble keeping up with the demand I suspect.  I still have not got my head around it as first I thought it was 'free' now it seems it is, but it is a 7 day trial.
  • They have a Moodle site with I figure over 100 courses to browse.
  • There is a new cool video out recently showing adapt builder, but it is unlisted and they asked us not to share it.
  • One new link: https://www.adaptlearning.org/index.php/adapt-authoring-tool/

-Derek


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by Nathan Mcilree -

Just as an update the users of my MOODLE install are already using SCORM content built on top of the Adapt platform (I think they use a GUI designed by one of the ADAPT partners).

It seems to load and track fine - though there appear to be conflicts between the way MOODLE load content in an iframe and ADAPT handles footer navigation - at least in my case with 2,7 and ipad.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

Wow.  Interesting nathan.

Any chance of more detail?

  • What GUI?  Hosted Adaptbuilder (free) Hosted Adaptbuilder (paid) or self installed or something else?
  • Is there any change you can share a small scorm package here to see how it works on our Moodles that these guys have built.  (I know this is a big ask)

-Derek

Who is today trying to make something with Free Hosted Adaptbuilder.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

By the way, a friend passed this on to me today:

https://jovianshadow.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/my-journey-so-far-with-adapt-learning/

A little dated, (2015) but I'd love to know Simons recent thoughts.

I quote:

It’s probably fair to say that there are a multitude of rapid authoring development tools available in the eLearning market, all of which are similar to one another. Platforms like Articulate Storyline and Studio,Adobe Captivate, Lectora and others utilise essentially a PowerPoint style frame for the content and a player that can contain other elements such as resources and menus.

Adapt is an open source eLearning development tool that is being developed by a group of developers in Europe and further afield. The main players are City & Guilds Kineo, Learning Pool and Sponge UK among others, but you can find the full list here: Adapt Partners

So, what about the new player on the block?



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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Nathan Mcilree -

As indicated in one of my other replies Adapt seems to be being taken up by several of my companies clients (and they are very large organisations) - so I would say it is definitely something MOODLE/SCORM should be looking into playing nicely with.

It would be great if the MOODLE team could find some time/resourcing to look at breaking SCORM rendering out of iframes - though I realise that this is a very big ask.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

At present I have some SCORM packages that open up in another tab in Chrome.  They then are full screen, and when you return to the original tab it just says 

This SCORM package has been launched in a popup window, If you have finished viewing this resource, click here to return to the course page

Works for me at the moment.

But (1) I'm not doing any collecting of data from the SCORM yet, and (2)_ I do not know how to get rid of the clunky message - still tinkering.  

I'm not sure what you mean by this Nathan:

As indicated in one of my other replies Adapt seems to be being taken up by several of my companies clients (and they are very large organisations) - so I would say it is definitely something MOODLE/SCORM should be looking into playing nicely with.

If the SCORM is compliant, then it should just work with a 'SCORM compliant LMS'.  ???  Or have I got it wrong?

-Derek

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Dan Marsden -
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Moodle embeds the SCORM content within an iframe for a range of reasons - particularly related to stability and browser compatibility. We are not the only SCORM compliant LMS that does this. There's a bit more info in MDL-46563 about the request for a layout that doesn't use an iframe but IMO Adapt should really improve their packaging so that the content displays ok within LMS tools that embed the content in an iframe.


There is also a patch in MDL-47500 that might be worth investigating - the code looks ok but no-one managed to write proper testing instructions (or provided any details on what they have tested)  - there are also techniques that can be employed to improve the display of specific packages - but I can't help with this as a volunteer. 

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Nathan Mcilree -

Hi I have recently implemented MDL-46563 and it has just been released to beta for two of our clients. It seems to be working very nicely, though I accept that opening in a new window is not right for everyone's workflow. Interestingly now that a blank window is opened and then the content window - it looks a bit like the way SCORM cloud do it.

With regards Adapt amending their packaging I agree entirely - however given the time it has taken for the Adapt tools to be released (at least compared to speed which the Adapt partners were able to release their own commercial solutions using the framework) there may be a bit of a wait.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Matthew Leathes -

Hi Dan

As I've mentioned on MDL-46563, the problem doesn't really lie with Adapt but with Safari for iOS which really doesn't deal well with content in iframes (or framesets for that matter).

To quote one of our developers who's been working on this issue (with only partial success):

HTML frames on iOS Safari will invalidate their styling and layout models when the DOM or styles are altered inside the frame.
This can be very problematic with content that dynamically constructs or modifies the DOM or styles at runtime.
With each modification of the DOM or styling, the browser is forced to invalidate and re-render the entire frame DOM, which causes each modification call from within JavaScript to slow down dramatically.
The best way to avoid this issue is to display content without using frames.

I know that Totara has managed to overcome this issue by adding a 'New window (simple)' display option for SCOs:

new window (simple) option in Totara LMS

This causes the course to be opened in a new browser tab (popup windows have a bit of a tendency to get 'lost', particularly if there's a link to an external page in the content that the user visits) which displays the course and nothing else. This has worked very well. Worth looking at for Moodle perhaps?

#safariisthenewIE sad

Matt Leathes

Kineo Senior Technical Consultant and Adapt collaborator.


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by Derek Chirnside -

Thank you for this Matt.

My follow on question is this:

Your developer comments: does this mean it is just not possible to do things nicely with adding a few bits of code to the SCORM object - and that it requires a change to Moodle SCORM display code (or something else) for SCORMS to play nicely with Safari in Moodle?

ie that we cannot make scorms that play nice with Moodle as Moodle is?  That the "new window (simple)" approach cannot be included in the SCORM code?

-Derek

I'm a little philosophical about this.  I'm very hesitant to ever say 'you can't' since this implies close to omniscience.  But there can be a pretty comprehensive set of logic that you can marshall in support of a 'you can't' statement.
Do you have any advice Matt?


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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Matthew Leathes -

I am not a Moodle developer so cannot comment on how hard it would or wouldn't be to add a new window (simple) option to Moodle.

As an e-learning content developer, one workaround I use is to include an additional page - launch.html - in my SCO that opens the course proper in a new window of its own creation. You can find details about this over on the Adapt Community site.

And of course I live in the hope that Apple might actually put a bit more effort into making Safari something more than the worst performing mobile browser. Hopefully this might stir them into action.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Nathan Mcilree -

Hi I think some of our clients are using the learning pool adapt authoring tool, and some are using the one available directly from the adapt website.

Unfortunately I am unable to upload any SCORM or offer more information about what tools are being used as our contract with them is solely as supplier of web services and we have nothing to do with the content provision.

There are coming to light some issues regarding scrolling/navigation as MOODLE renders the content in the iframe - meaning things like footers do not show, or scrolling is erratic on ipads and apparently IE edge.


I am working on some cases regarding this now so will update the thread with anything I find.

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Re: Has anyone looked at "Adapt", an OS responsive framework?

by Derek Chirnside -

How are you doing Nathan?

I note your comments over in the Adapt forums: https://community.adaptlearning.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=477#p7589

And you probably have seen this: https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-46563

-Derek

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