How to activate use LaTex

How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Number of replies: 19
It is likely that I do not understand how to activate the Tex filter. I read the documentation. I went into modules > filters > manage filters

I do not understand the meaning of the preamble:

\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{amsfonts}
\RequirePackage{amsmath,amssymb,latexsym}

I put the the double dollar signs and the \sqrt{x + y} and all I get is the statement underlined. When I click on the link get to Tex Filter Debugger. If I put in the \sqrt{x + y}, I get

Can not output detailed information due to security concerns, please turn on debug mode first.
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/expedioscientiam.net/moodle/filter/tex/texdebug.php:174) in /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/expedioscientiam.net/moodle/filter/tex/texdebug.php on line 104
No text output available
Then there is all the debugger help information below.

Not sure what to do.

Also, is there a difference between Tex and LaTex. They seem designations seem to be used interchangeably, but are they?

Thanks,
Jeff


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In reply to Jeff Finnan

Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Howard Miller -
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Hi Jeff,

Firstly, the preamble should not affect the basic operation - you can leave that alone. It's only if you need different fonts etc.

The most important thing is that you have all the binary paths set properly on that screen - they *must* have green ticks next to them.

There is some confusion because there is fallback simple binary "mimetex" that ships with Moodle that is used if these paths are not found but you will get better results from the "proper" binaries.

Depending on the OS you have installed you may not have all the packages - or the right packages that you need. What OS is it? Solaris can be a bit tricky, for example.

Texdebug.php can help you a lot - as it says make sure debugging is turned on in Site Administration > Server > Debugging. You can then step through it's options (skip the mimetex ones) and check for errors.

There's more info here that might help....

http://docs.moodle.org/en/TeX_notation_filter
In reply to Howard Miller

Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Howard,

Thanks for the prompt reply. What are "proper binaries"? Do I download from somewhere? I had read the Tex_notation_filter earlier but I found it not too helpful for my level of expertise.

These guys had red Xs:
  • Path of dvips binary
  • Path of convert binary
I turned on debugging per your suggestion. I used "NORMAL." But since I had the red Xs, I figure that debugging is meaningless until I get those binaries fixed.

I am using the host provide IX Web Hosting.

What is my next step?

Thanks much,
Jeff
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Still hopin' for some hand holdin' here.

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Mauno Korpelainen -

I guess IX Web Hosting does not include LaTeX to their services but you could ask from your host if they have installed some TeX distribution. If moodle does not find latex binary files, dvips binary files or convert binary files from the given paths (or you have not used symbolic links) moodle tries to use executable files (mimetex.exe , mimetex.linux ... ) from your moodle folder filter/tex and you may need to change permissions of these files (to allow visitors to execute mimetex file)

/filter/tex/texdebug.php did not create any gif images to /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/mdata/temp/latex/ so the problem might be also that /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/mdata/temp/latex/ does not allow writing

And if it is not a permission issue something else (some security settings?) might block mimetex from creating those gif images...

Read also http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=111785

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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
<<< guess IX Web Hosting does not include LaTeX to their services but you could ask from your host if they have installed some TeX distribution.>>>

Should I provide any more information so that I appear to know what I am talking about? IX has been pretty accommodating when I asked. In the past I have kicked my self for not asking IX sooner because they took care of whatever I wanted immediately,

<<<If moodle does not find latex binary files, dvips binary files or convert binary files from the given paths (or you have not used symbolic links) moodle tries to use executable files (mimetex.exe , mimetex.linux ... ) from your moodle folder filter/tex and you may need to change permissions of these files (to allow visitors to execute mimetex file)>>>

I went and changed all permissions on the mimetex files to allow.

<<</filter/tex/texdebug.php did not create any gif images to /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/mdata/temp/latex/ so the problem might be also that /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/mdata/temp/latex/ does not allow writing>>>

Went into mdata/temp/latex/ and changed permissions of the folder as well as every single file in the folder to allow all.

Ran the debugger again and got:
  • The shell command
    "/hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/expedioscientiam.net/moodle/filter/tex/mimetex.linux" -e "/hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/mdata/filter/tex/d1e56126337cd6e29b16fe759232ce90.gif" -- '\Large f(x)=\\Bigint_{-\\infty}^x~e^{-t^2}dt'
    returned status = 1
    File size of mimetex executable /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/expedioscientiam.net/moodle/filter/tex/mimetex.linux is 491043
    The file permissions are: 100777
    The md5 checksum of the file is c294ab11905323bb5cb0f451241bedc1
    Image not found!
    Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/expedioscientiam.net/moodle/filter/tex/texdebug.php:149) in /hsphere/local/home/jefffinn/expedioscientiam.net/moodle/filter/tex/texdebug.php on line 104
    No text output available
    
<<<Read also http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=111785>>>

Yep, I had seen this. My journey into all this started when I raised the issue of how spaces are stripped out of forum messages, even non-breaking spaces. And I also saw that discussion you mentioned. Since I teach chemistry I thought that this would be worth pursuing, particularly since I have some time during the holiday break.

Thanks,
Jeff

PS. How come one cannot rate posts in this forum?


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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Mauno Korpelainen -

It must be some server side restriction that prevents mimetex to create those images...

There is also a possibility to use public external latex - for example like explained in http://www.codecogs.com/components/equationeditor/equation_install.php you can paste to your theme footer.html just before </body>

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://latex.codecogs.com/latex.js"></script>

and the script will convert [...] and $...$ into block and inline equations inside any <p>...</p> tags (or you can download the script and edit it for your needs) or you can use directly image tags to render latex gif/png images from external server, for example

 http://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?f(x)=\displaystyle\frac{(x+1)^2}{(x+1)}=(x+1) pasted to image url field of editor renders

http://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?f(x)=\displaystyle\frac{(x+1)^2}{(x+1)}=(x+1)

The advantage of using latex or mimetex from your own server is that you can control the settings (if you get latex or mimetex to work) but you could as well use any public mathtex or mimetex (or any tex rendering) server for creating the gif images.

( Edited the changed path to latex.codecogs.com )

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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
I put in a request a couple of days ago to IX Web Hosting. They responded with

  • Our administration team have successfully installed LaTeX module(tetex-latex-1.0.7-47.5.legacy) for apache. Please re-check the webapplication from your end now.
I just went into debugging mode and got the same error response as before and when I go into the Tex filter page on my Moodle

  • /usr/bin/dvips
  • /usr/bin/convert
Are still red Xs.

Got any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeff
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Howard Miller -
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You need Ghostscript or ImageMagick support for PHP installed as well - that's where dvips and convert come from.
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Do I request this of my host too?
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Howard Miller -
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Yes you do smile

I would actually tell them that you need dvips and convert available - just to be sure smile
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Let's see if I understand.

I need to request from my host that Ghostscript or ImageMagick support for PHP is installed as well with
  • /usr/bin/dvips
  • /usr/bin/convert

Path of dvips binary

Path to standard dvips binary - generally distributed as part of a LaTeX system.

Path of convert binary

Path to standard convert binary. This is distributed as part of the Ghostscript system, or ImageMagick in Linux.

Thanks again.

Jeff

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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Howard Miller -
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Yes - sorry.

dvips should have come as part of the LaTeX install. If it didn't either it is missing or is not in the usual place (/usr/bin/dvips is only the most common - it could be anywhere). You will probably need to ask your host to resolve this.

convert should come with either Ghostscript or ImageMagick. It *should* be optional but different builds are not always compatible on all systems unfortunately. Again, your best to be clear to your host that you need 'convert'.
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
In fairly short order, IX Web Hosting was able to take care of the convert and gave me this path: /usr/X11R6/bin/convert. It now shows a green check. The technician could not find dvips and will be checking in with IX sysadmins to figure out what to do.

I never thought this would be this involved. I thought it was a simple matter of activating the filter.

Later,
Jeff

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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
dvips is now a green check. All is green but the \sqrt(x +y) delimited by double dollar signs on either side still just gives a link to the debugger. Don't know what to attack now. Sure would like it to look like:

$$ \sqrt(x +y) $$
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Mauno Korpelainen -
Mimetex and other TeX distributions have some differences and dialects.

Try \sqrt{x+y} between doubledollars (and refresh your browser) - that might give \sqrt{x+y}

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf

If it still does not work I suspect some security setting or disabled function/restriction of php that might be seen from php info (might be the same reason why mimetex could not create gif images)
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Did as suggested. No luck.
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Howard Miller -
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The only other problem I have had with this is that the Latex preamble implies certain Latex libraries being loaded. On some systems (Ubuntu springs to mind) they are an extra/optional package. IIRC, this was "reasonably" clear from close inspection of the debugger output - it complained about some library being missing.

Perhaps you could include *all* the output you get from the various steps of the debugger in case we spot something you didn't. Also, do you have any way to access your server (or PHP) error log? Checking that immediately after running the filter can sometimes show up a problem you didn't expect.
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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Mauno Korpelainen -

How about http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Enable_TeX/problems 

For example SeLinux on might cause something like this - again your host should be able to tell if they have some hardened security modules installed or you may see them in php info

Administration -> Server -> PHP info

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Re: How to activate use LaTex

by Jeff Finnan -
Here's my PHP info. Anything jump out?

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