If you can't install it (you can get it from CVS HEAD or packaged from the Moodle downloads page) then please try http://test.moodle.com ... enrolling in the gradebook course will make you a teacher automatically (it has over 5000 students to play with).
We've done our best to follow the spec (although we had to make a few design changes along the way as it unfolded) - I hope it meets (or will soon meet) the needs of everyone.
Re: Please help us test the new Moodle 1.9 Gradebook
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It looks very busy at first glance and can be daunting I would imagine, especially for new users, but I think its a good idea to show everything and have the user turn the bits off they don't want.
It has some very nice collapsible sections and I like that columns can grow to allow more space to enter stuff.
I would like to see a setting to allow the column headings to be repeated every n rows (as in GBPlusv2) as it is very easy to scroll down and lose which column is which. I know we can set the no. of students per page but I find this to be counter-productive, involving too many extra clicks to get to the required student, particularly in a busy marking/feedback session that I often run with groups.
The column headings are linked to their assignments (or other source) with the exception of any manual grade items, I would like to see them link to the description that was put in for that grade item.
The aggregate heading could also be linked to the assignment.
Overall I think the team have taken a massive step forward, I'll have to spend some time looking at how to create reports as this looks to be a very exciting area.
Thank you.
Dave
Other observations so far:
1. Performance: Please see MDL-11920
2. After click on "Turn editing on" there are a lot of pen (edit buttons) floating around. UI-wise this is kind of confusing, especially for new teachers. There should be a better way to do this (it looks really busy!) Also, maybe by default the comments should be hided (only showing the grade and if teachers really want, they could then click on the "edit" button for that specific assignment/quiz/course total to show comments? (created MDL-11924)
3. Glad to know that finally for quiz/assignment now we could use decimals! Yeah! However I found a bug and had reported to MDL-11922
Will report more later.
.some_class_or_other td img.edit { visibility: hidden; }
.some_class_or_other td:hover img.edit { visibility: visible; }
so that they only show up in the cell you are hovering over. That is how close buttons on tabs work in Eclipse.
Of course, you would need to check this works reliably cross-browser, and you would need to do something to make it accessible.
I have started to review the gradebook for 1.9
I have preferences for show/hide toggles set as follows:
Show/hide toggles
"Whether to show a show/hide icon near each grade (controlling its visibility to the user)."
This preference is within the section "Show/hide toggles".
I am saying this so that you understand the distinction between "toggles" and "icons". Toggles are the switches you see at the top of the grader report. The show/hide icons are the eyes (opened or closed) near each grade or grade item/category.
There is no current preference for hiding/showing the hide/show toggles. If you think there should be one, please enter a suggestion for improvement in the moodle tracker (http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa)
Thanks for testing the gradebook
From EDIT CATEGORIES & ITEMS, I have hidden items Test Quiz 5 and Test Quiz 7.
Edit Categories and Items
On viewing the USER REPORT for a student, items Test Quiz 5 and Test Quiz 7 are still visible? I would not expect them to be visible to the student?
On viewing the GRADER REPORT for a tutor, items Test Quiz 5 and Test Quiz 7 are still visible? I would not expect them to be visible to the tutor?
Have I misunderstood the functionality?
As for "tutors", it's a matter of capabilities. For the moment, there aren't very many capabilities within the gradebook (See Administration->Users->Permissions->Define Roles->Non-editing Teachers/Tutors). Hiding some items completely from the gradebook is not part of these. At the moment it's probably a good idea to prevent tutors from managing the gradebook.
However, the grader report always shows ALL the grades. The hiding and showing of grades is meant for students, as it affects only the user report. The grader report is a sort of administration panel for graders (tutors are also graders I imagine), in which they can control what is finally shown to their students.
If you have suggestions for improvements please share them with us on this forum
I have hidden items Test Quiz 5 and Test Quiz 7 as shown in the previous post, but when reviewing the students USER REPORT I can still see the grades? This is shown below. Is this a bug? I would not expect to see the grades?
User report - test student1
Grade item | Grade | Percent | Rank | Feedback | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Formal Assessment Average | 72.2 | 72.2% | 2/5 | ||
Test Quiz 5 | 4.0 | 66.7% | 2/5 | ||
Test Quiz 6 | 3.0 | 50.0% | 3/5 | ||
Test Quiz 7 | 6.0 | 100.0% | 1/5 | ||
Self Assessment Average | 66.7 | 66.7% | 1/5 | ||
Test Quiz 8 | 4.0 | 66.7% | 1/5 | ||
Course total | 69.4 | 69.4% | 2/5 |
BTW, this neatly addresses my faculty's desire to release all grades together -- just hide the grades until they are all done then unhide. Bonza!
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I would love to be able to start a collaboration since I am also in Maine and my school is trying to move to a Standards -based grading system . Just yesterday Craig Kesselheim shared some of the work Foxcroft has been doing that is why I recognize the scale.
If anyone can tell me how to contact the author it would be great,
susang
Re: Please help us test the new Moodle 1.9 Gradebook
We might want to do some more testing to see if the new gradebook interface with other modules correctly, just my 2c.
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http://test.moodle.com/grade/report/grader/index.php?id=4
The 1.9 Test site won't let me create an account because the Country field is not selectable. Thanks.
Steve
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1. Is there a way to turn off Feedback column in the User Report?
2. After installation, our course total grade is showing the total grade without using the weights. For example, a couple of assignments have not yet been provided, so the total grade weight allocated thus far is 75%, but the new Gradebook does not take this into account, and shows the student grades for the 100% lot. Does that make sense?
3. Overall, I am enjoying the many new options!
Cheers,
Brent Lee
You probably want to change the aggregation for your course grade to be "Simple Weighted Mean of Grades"
Thanks
Sarah
--B
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I have tried a number of methods of importing grades
I have a standard scale of 69-150 when I imported grades from a CSV file they all ended up as 150.
I have another standard scale which combines numbers and letters i.e 27-4b, 29-4a etc when I tried to import grades using this scale I get invalid scale. I double checked this by manually inputing the grades which worked fine and the exporting them and trying to reimport them but once again got invalid scale.
Can some one please help.
Thanks
Sarah
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Setting Catergories
Is there another way of setting catergories in 1.9. It is far more informative and has more options than previous gradebooks however it does take longer to set catergories for each assignment. This is a particulardisadvantage for courses that have a large number of assingments.
Thanks
Sarah
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I have another questions about categories in the gradebook for 1.9. If this was already answered somewhere, I apologize. Is it going to be possible to set up sub-categories in 1.9? For example, I would love to have two categories: "First Semester" and "Second Semester", each of which has sub-categories for Tests, Homework, etc.
I would like to avoid having to create separate courses for each semester!
Cheers!
-Thomas Wensink
Ps: After posting this I noticed that " This course does not have open teacher access, so the gradebook is likely to be less messed up with experiments". So it seems either the settings have been changed or this "Clean Gradebook Course" is different from the "gradebook course" you mentioned.
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By the way, for now, is the gradebook 1.9 GUI pretty much "finalized" and won't be changed at all? I might be able to get our support team to take a look at the GUI in gradebook 1.9 and they could provide more insight from teachers/students' perspective. Hopefully these comments could help improving the current GUI and usability of gradebook 1.9. However, if the GUI is pretty much "finalized" then such feedback probably won't help that much then.
Anthony Borrow and I are working on some kinks in GBPv2, usability-wise (at least for us), so far I still kind of prefer the GUI in GBPv2 over the new gradebook 1.9 (I haven't done extensive testing though so I could be wrong). Eventually if the gradebook could be like a plugin and could be easily replaced by another 3rd party gradebook (e.g. GBPv3, etc.) based on different preferences of GUI for different institutional needs, I think that would be really wonderful. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks again for your contribution in the moodle community. Really appreciate that.
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But in the new gradebook, all the parts of the interface that students and teachers see are plugins, so if you don't like the interface of the standard grader report, for example, you can make a new plugin to replace it. Hopefully, that is enough flexibility.
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If you enter a grade that is out of bound (say, the max is 100 and you enter 101, then you will get a brown?-colored warning message), however if you enter some text (when it suppose to have number in the grade), then your grade will be automatically be reset to 0.00 but no warning message (see screenshot). I think this is not consistent and maybe can be improved. Just my 2c.