Help setting up a new workshop

Help setting up a new workshop

by Hannah Walden -
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I've been playing around with this and trying to make it work. I just uploaded moodle on sitesource.com, so I think I have the latest version.

I'm developing a writing workshop where I want students to be able to submit a piece of writing, and then comment on each other's writings.

I want to be able to grade their initial submission, and grade the comments they gave to others. I don't want the students to be able to grade anyone's writings.

I'm getting confused in the set-up. Seems like I have everything right, but I have no option for giving a grade for a submission. I tested it out, and after submitting an assignment, went back into teach mode, saw the assignment, was able to give my own assessment, but no simple grade for the submission.

And for setting the weight of submission and assessment, does 60/40 mean that the original submission gets 60% and the comments I grade get 40%... or does it mean that the submission gets 60% and only comments that the students themselves grade (something I don't want) get 40%?

Any suggestions?
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Re: Help setting up a new workshop

by Art Lader -
Hi, Hannah,

I am not much of a workshop mod guru, but I think this resource might help -- http://www2.oakland.edu/webct/traindocs/Moodle/Workshop/index.html

Maybe someone who uses the mod will jump in here.

Best regards,
Art
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Re: Help setting up a new workshop

by Jan Dierckx -

Despite workshop being a standard Moodle module, I would suggest not starting to use it. The concept is great, but the module takes a lot of effort to setup and especially the grading part is buggy. There has been some talk about rewriting the workshop module , but I'm not sure when / if this will ever happen. sad

It seems rewriting the module could mean that existing workshop activities are no longer being supported.

Have you looked at the database module? It doesn't offer rubrics, peer review, grade calculation, etc... , but it has the advantage of being actively maintained. Sorry to disappoint you.

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Re: Help setting up a new workshop

by John Isner -
Jan is probably right about the fate of Workshop (alas), but I would like a more detailed explanation of how to substitute a Database for a Workshop.

In the final analysis, there is no substitute for a Workshop. It is/was by far the most powerful learning activity in Moodle. Yes, Workshop takes "a lot of work to set up," but imagine running a workshop in a paper-and-pencil environment. If you look at it that way, Moodle Workshop is a breeze to set up and administer.
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Re: Help setting up a new workshop

by Rick Barnes -
I have tried using workshops in the past but had problems with what happens when work is not submitted on time, unfortunately all too regular with the teenagers I teach. I have used email and one discussion per student forums with assesment templates to allow peer assessment of work. I have made the selections of who assesses who and then given out the rota (couldn't use the word assignment again) to the stgudents.
California State University, Humboldt had a peer review module that they were working on in 2006 that performed the same sort of functions with the option for random rotas that included all pupils in a group regardless of wether they had submitted work yet or not. It looked much easier to work with in the demo course but i haven't heard anything more about it.

Rick.
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Re: Help setting up a new workshop

by Art Lader -
> I have tried using workshops in the past but
> had problems with what happens when work
> is not submitted on time, unfortunately all too
> regular with the teenagers I teach.

Yes, that is what one of my colleagues told me, too. She says she probably won't use it again.

Pity.

-- Art


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Re: Help setting up a new workshop

by Rick Barnes -
I haven't used it since and have been waiting for the promised new version. The methods I am using for peer and self assessment are more cumbersome and don't allow tracking of assessments or results.
The ability to allocate all pupils would have made the workshop much more useable. I found the grading too complicated.

Rick