Additionally in IE when in editing mode hidden sections are completely hidden from the administrator. It is not possible to see what content is there, edit it, or add new content/activities. Anyhow I really like this theme (IMO it's the best looking theme I've seen) but have had to switch my courses to a different theme in order to funtion properly. Currently running CR-wave on the front page but that is all.
I started getting reports from students who told me that the HTML Editor was not working - instead they would get just the toolbar with an emtpy body.
It never happened to me on my English system. It is perhaps relevant to note that The Linguist and I both work in Korea and I am wondering whether this is an issue with the Korean Windows OS. Of course, this also only happens in IE , not Firefox (definitely that is the case in English OS systems, not sure about Korean ones as I haven't tested that yet).
On some occasions the problem cleared after refreshing the browser - this happened in class when I was showing the learners something on the homepage. However, on others the problem was permanent, and no matter how many times I refreshed the HTML Editor body would not load. I experienced this close up as the office computer (a Korean windows OS) had the problem permanently.I tried clicking on the enlarge window button but when this popped up it was empty too (this time with nothing in the window, not even a toolbar). I also tried to change the Temporary Internet Files setting in IE for "Check for newer versions of stored pages" to "Every visit to the page", as suggested for previous versions of this problem, but it didn't help.
As soon as I changed the default theme from CR-Wave to another one, the problem disappeared.
This is a wonderful theme and I thank the developer for making it available. This is just to give some feedback for an unusual bug.
Tim.
Hi Tim, I'm having the EXACT same problem. Teaching in Korea, on the Korean OS (XP/IE6) the text box doesn't show up. It is particularly prevalent on the teacher classroom computers, in that no amount of refreshing seems to help. I loaded Firefox on those systems, just so that I could demo Moodle with the students, and I haven't had the problem with it...except Firefox loads really, really, really slow.
I'm using the CR BlueChecks 15...I'll check tomorrow on the school computers and see if changing the theme helps the situation, as about 20% of my students have the same persisitent problem.
Thanks for your post! I found it to be one of the most helpful in terms of this problem. I'll let you know how things turn out.
I changed my theme today to standard_blue and miraculously, the text box issue was cleared up. I much prefer the CR BlueChecks theme, though...
Thanks again, Tim.
Jeff
I'm really glad my post helped you solve the issue. Now that all three reports of this issue so far have been related to Korea, I think that there is a high likelihood that a language issue is involved (but what on earth could it be? ). I wish we could find out where the bug is but I fear that that level of technical ability is beyond me.
If I get time I will do more testing though.
Cheers,
Tim.
When using CR-wave theme in Moodle 1.5:
1- I do not see any problem with the HTML editor in MSIE (6.0)
2- Here is a fix for the problem of the hidden sections completely hidden from teacher in MSIE.
In file styles_layout.css, add the line in red at approx. line 630:
#course-view .section .content { padding:5px; border-style:solid; border-width:1px; border-left:0px; border-right:0px; display: block;}3- There is an important accessibility problem with the CR-wave theme when using MSIE. The font sizes only work properly if text size is set at medium. When set at larger, text display is HUGE and when set at smaller it is VERY SMALL. There is no such problem using Firefox or Mozilla, etc.
All the best,
Joseph
Jeff
The html toolbar problem is a long one with IE and isn't related to themes.
The hidden section thing is odd, because that CSS tag Joseph has you add isn't in the standard theme either. Do you get the problem with the standard theme?
I will try to chase this down some more.
Jeff
It may be an old theme but currently I think it is the best theme available and appreciate your work to fix it.
Jeff
Yes, only in IE and SFAIK only with the CR-Wave theme.
It is not always intermittent, although it often is. I know this for certain because I didn't have to rely on a student report - the Korean OS computer in my office had the problem permanently (ie refreshing the page made no difference) until I changed the site's default theme.
Linguist, can I clarify something? Have you experienced the issue yourself, and has it always been on Korean computers?
Tim.
I know that this has been a long-standing problem that hasn't previously been related to themes. However, on this occasion something theme-related is clearly happening, even if it is interacting with problems in other areas, and is not a direct bug.
How do I know this? Because changing the default theme on the site immediately made the HTML Editor problem go away, and restoring it immediately caused the problem to appear again. I think this evidence is incontrovertible!
Mind you, I am not surprised that people have been unable to reproduce the problem, as I am almost certain that this is also related to an underlying encoding issue. At the very least, I have noted that neither the Linguist nor I experienced the problem on our own English OS computers. Rather, we had reports from our students, all of whom use Korean Windows OS's.
I am wondering if something is conflicting with multi-byte language encoding? If so, maybe the problem would also occur with other multibyte language OS's such as Japanese and Chinese...or it could be just Korean...
i think it's a language thing because we're having the exact problems here at my university in japan. i was shown this particular forum after i sought out support so it seems it's a theme and language thing.
when my students change to an english o/s in the comp. labs they never have this problem.....