Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

Peter G
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Hello,

I have a question about the quiz that was submitted automatically due to the time limit that ended:
1. Are the answers contained in the quiz deleted and the quiz itself is submitted as empty? 
2. Or are the answers that the user made until the end of time recorded? 
3. And what about the status of the quiz itself? Does the status should say it is "submitted" or does the status say something different?  
Best regards
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Re: Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

Tim Hunt
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If the student is activly working on the quiz (has it open in their web browser) when time runs out, then it is automatically submitted, and the state is submitted.

If the user has left the quiz, then what happens when time runs out depends on a setting in the settings. Bascially it is your choices whether the quiz gets submitted - any answers already entered are graded, and state goes to submitted state - or if the attempt is ignored (goes to never-submitted state).

https://docs.moodle.org/38/en/Quiz_settings#Timing

2. and the quiz will be marked as
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Odp: Re: Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

Peter G

Correct me if I am wrong - if student filled all the answers (since it was an essay composed of couple of questions) and didn't leave the quiz but he did not submit the quiz by himself within the time limit, all the answers will still be saved and available to check? And the state of his attempt is submited.

Thank you very much for responding

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Re: Odp: Re: Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

Tim Hunt
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If you are in any doubt, then the best thing to do is to prove it to yourself:

  1. Create a test course.
  2. Add a quiz to it, with a short-ish time limit (e.g. 5 minutes) so it is not too slow to test..
  3. Make a student login that you can use for testing, and add that login as a student in the course.
  4. Log in with the test student account, and attempt the quiz, and test various scenarios.
If you are doing that sort of testing, a useful trick is that if you use two different web browsers, then you can be logged in with your real login in one browser, and as the student in the other browser. That makes it easy to quick check the effect of changing setting.
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Re: Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

phelim murnion

Dear Tim,

I have a specific problem that several of your posts speak to.  I have one student who completed a Quiz but in the Quiz Results report all the Responses are blank and under her name it says Never Submitted.  On investigation I managed to view the full 'transcript' (all her answers to the manual essay questions and all the mcq question responses). But no grades even for the auto-graded questions.  I tried the Regrade option in the Results report to no effect.  I manually corrected her attempt.  But it is worrying that this can happen.

I note in your posts you mention things like time out and abandoned tests but the process is not clear to me nor is moodledocs. In Quiz settings I set the timer on and allowed a grace period. My understanding is that if the student does not submit the quiz is submitted automatically at the time limit (in grace period). There appears to be a scenario in which a quiz can be "abandoned". Moodledocs states that "If a student manages to cheat and goes over the allotted time, no marks are awarded for any answers entered after the time ran out".  This is just gobbledy-gook since "manages to cheat" is completely undefined. Your own post is clearer: you state that the student must abandon the test.  But what exactly happens?  Somewhere it is mentioned that if the quiz browser window is still open at time limit the auto-submit activates, which is as I expected. What are the conditions for never submit/abandoned: is it that the student closes the browser or tab?

I looked at mdl 35322 but I'm none the wiser. Hope you can advise.

Phelim

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Re: Quiz attached after time limit - what about the answers?

Eoin Campbell
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I believe another issue to bear in mind is that only answers that have been saved to the server will be submitted if the quiz is set to submit automatically after the closing time. If quiz questions are on separate pages, then an answer is saved when you move to the next question. If questions are in batches such as 5 per page, the answers to the 5 questions are saved together when the student navigates to the next page. If all questions are on a single page, none of the answers are saved until the student completes the quiz. I think this is how it works anyway, but I'm open to correction. If I'm right, the documentation doesn't explain this very well.
If a quiz has 20 questions on one page, and a student doesn't submit until after the closing time, then even if the "When time expires" field is set to "Open attempts are submitted automatically", the answers are not saved and the questions are not graded for the student.
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