Dear Sir or Madam,
Hello - I have moved your post to the Badges forum and hopefully you will get a response here. I am not an expert on openbadges as I don't really use them but I believe you need the same account on Learn Moodle as you have for your Moodlecloud account. Email account, I mean. Then connect your Learn Moodle email account to the Mozilla backpack and upload your badges. When you sign in on your MoodleCloud with that email you should see a place in your profile where you can display badges from other sources.
Thank you Ms. Mary for your prompt response.
I was wondering why my post suddenly disappeared!
I did exactly the same, and many times, as you suggested; but could not succeed so far!
At my Moodlecloud account, Site administration>Badges>Add badges, the following are fields marked * as required:
Name, description, image, Issuer details.
I can't figure these out either account in Moodle or at Mozilla backpack; I wonder why such should be made so cumbersome!
Thanks for your support, anyways!
Regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
As far as I understand it, once you have signed in to MoodleCloud with the same email address as you have on your Learn Moodle account, you go to the user menu top right > Preferences >Badges > Manage badges and you will see the link My badges from other websites. Click the link "Add collections" and follow the instructions there. You are basically importing your badges from Mozilla open badges.
Hopefully you will get a clearer answer from a badges expert
Thank you Ms. Mary for your suggestions.
I followed your guidelines. All my 3 badges are promptly displayed at Mozilla backpack site!
Yet, even with the few buttons, I could not succeed. Under Badge Import Settings, I get the following prompt:
There are no public collections of badges available in your backpack.
Only public collections are shown, visit your backpack to create some public collections.
I'm stuck as before!
I suspect the whole setting at Moodlecloud site is only for badges earned therein (to be shuffled back and forth at Mozilla backpack, and not for badges earned elsewhere, including the ones from the recently concluded Learn Moodle MOOC); wonder whether any of my course colleagues succeeded in porting the earned badge(s) to their own Moodlecloud site!
Regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
I can see the 3 badges displayed at the link:
https://backpack.openbadges.org/backpack
When I visit under "Preferences">Backpack settings, I still get the prompt
There are no public collections of badges available in your backpack.
Only public collections are shown, visit your backpack to create some public collections.
Where am I going wrong??
Have you shared the collections via the backpack? As the message says only public collections are available in Moodle.
Simon
Thanks for your response, Simon.
I tried many times; don't know where I'm going wrong or exactly how to create public collections at Mozilla packpack, though all the 3 badges are sitting solid there!
Regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
You have to check the "public" checkbox in the bottom left corner of the collection:
Hi Simon,
So now you have a public collection and you can connect to your backpack on your MoodleCloud site, what is the error message you are getting now?
Hi Mary,
Actually I also have display problems on the badges, I just uploaded Mooc those of 2015.
This is the message that I presented on the screen.
I checked on mozilla backpack and it's all ok (the collections are public). I also tried to make a new registration but even this is not able to communicate with moodle (the error message is identical).
Ok Domenico - I also tried and got that message. I found a (resolved) tracker issue from a while back MDL-49669 Hopefully the MoodleCloud developers will see this after the weekend and take a look.
The reported problem still continues...
Can anyone inform soon after fixing the problem for normal functionality?
Thanks and regards,
Dr, R. Murugesan
Hi Dr. R, Dom, and Mary:
This problem is not limited to MoodleCloud - I am in moodle.org, and my attempt to link to Mozilla Backpack is still responding with
You could not be connected to an external backpack for the following reason: The data return from the backpack was invalid.
Mozilla Backpack itself is working OK now, so the problem may be with the connection to Moodle.
I just now tried this with my MoodleCloud site - same exact error message!
Hope this helps.
Thanks - Ted
Thanks Ted; it does help. I have reported it here MDL-51390
Dr R Murugesan, with relation to your comment The reported problem still continues...
Can anyone inform soon after fixing the problem for normal functionality? please bear in mind that it is the weekend and HQ developers work from Monday to Friday. (So do I, although I like to peruse the forums.)
In terms of how soon things get fixed, this depends on the complexity and gravity of the issue and the workload of the developer dealing with it. Of course, Moodle being open source is a wonderful advantage because it means any developer can volunteer a 'fix' for a problem and offer it to Moodle. Such welcome 'fixes' then need to be tested by HQ to ensure they will work correctly and then they can be added to the next versions of Moodle.
When you have time and inclination, there is a page on the Moodle developent process which is useful and which contains a useful diagram.
I had a look into this. Looks like 3 days ago Mozilla made a change to force one of the API calls to be over https:
https://github.com/mozilla/openbadges-backpack/commits/master
which for some reason seems to have broken the API call.
A temporary fix (and potentially the correct long term fix) is to change this line:
https://github.com/moodle/moodle/blob/master/badges/backpackconnect.php#L90
from:
$check->backpackurl = 'http://' . BADGE_BACKPACKURL;
to:
$check->backpackurl = 'https://' . BADGE_BACKPACKURL;
(https instead of http).
I'll comment on the bug.
Simon
Dear Ms. Mary,
I appreciate your prompt response and for initiating action quickly to fix the reported problem.
The integration workflow tracker as part of the Moodle development process appears very rugged and so it would take some time to fix any bug following the intricate process flows. I was never intending to push the developer, as the issue is not so critical; all I wanted was an acknowledgement/feedback to the person who raised an issue. No one will expect an immediate solution to any problem reported.
Thanks again for sparing your valuable time during the weekend too
Best regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
Thank you Mary from me, too, for following up on this and posting the problem on Tracker.
Encountering this problem was perhaps a good thing - I started learning how to get around the Moodle.org forums and the the Moodle documentation, as well as learning about the Tracker system, which I didn't even know existed! Maybe these topics could be covered in a Teaching with Moodle "102" course!
Dear all concerned,
The issue raised by me is not such a serious or urgent one! Yet, timely resolution or formal communication on what is being done is expected at this site of high repute.
I'm surprised that no official (except for the response and feedback from Ms. Mary) from Moodle.org acknowledged/responded positively on how to resolve the issue that I have been raising for a week now.
From the operational point of view, it looks very simple and straight forward at the Mozilla backpage site.
I followed the guidelines to port my 3 badges easily from Mozilla backpack domain to Open Badge Passport domain; it works just fine without any hassles.
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To import badges from Backpack, badges have to be placed to a public Collection (group). If your badges are not in a public Collection, please follow these instructions:
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Not only that, with relative ease, I could port my badges to my LinkedIn profile too!
In the light of the above, in my view, there is some serious issue here at Moodle developer domain requiring fixing of related non/dysfunctional plug-in. I would appreciate an early fix and feedback at this column.
Thanks and regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
Hi Dr. Simon,
Good afternoon (PT)!
I've been tracking on the progress towards a solution to the bug/issue reported. Still, I get the prompt:
You could not be connected to an external backpack for the following reason: The data return from the backpack was invalid.
I'm aware of the Moodle process to address and fix issues raised. Just wanted to know from experts like you whether this problem is so complex taking time to fix. It's sheer an academic query not that this matter is so urgent or serious
Best regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
You will need to wait for some activity on the bug. To follow progress you can "watch" the tracker issue here (you may need to make an account):
Today we rolled out the patch in MDL-51390 to MoodleCloud. You should find your site can now view the badges correctly
Dear Mr. Jordan Tomkinson,
Thanks for your communication.
Sorry, the problem persists even at this moment, with the prompt
"There are no public collections of badges available in your backpack"
while in fact, my badges in backpack are quite in order for public view.
This is not a complaint, but a feedback for your processing in due course of time; I appreciate the works of Team at Moodle for serving the fraternity so wonderfully.
Regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
I went to the user menu > Preferences >Badges >Manage badges and connected to an externa back pack with my email. You would need to use the same email as for Learn Moodle to get your badge. Then once signed in I saw a section Badge import settings with the name of my public collection on Mozilla. So I ticked that and saved and my badge is now displayed. I notice there is a message with a link to visit your backpack if you need to make a collection public, in order for it to display on this page. If you are having difficulty with this , perhaps you can make a screenshot of your public collection page on Mozilla backpack page so we can confirm it is a public collection -and then you would need to contact Mozilla, as I think the issue on Moodle's side is now resolved.
Thanks for your communication, Ms. Mary.
I took a screenshot of Mozilla Backpack showing my badges marked public. I saved this file both in .jpg format (220KB) and in .png format (704KB). I am unable to upload either of these 2 files as I get the following prompt:
The file Mozilla backpack screenshot for Moodle badges.png is larger than the maximum size allowed.
What is the file size limitation at this site for attachment? Certainly, it is an experience of sorts in handling such a basic aspect!
Regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
500KB - try the first one again, the JPG and if it doesn't work, email it to me and I will put it onto this forum.
Thanks for your prompt response, Ms. Mary.
I tried to upload the screenshot file of 220KB size in .jpg format; nope, it won't go with the same prompt!
I have sent the 2 files with my mail to you; hope you would receive my mail with attachments in order
I am not very familiar with openbadges so I can't help in that respect. All I can suggest is why not move all three badges into one single collection and rename the collection Moodle Badges -and then see if is available in your profile on MoodleCloud?
Hi!
Could you try disconnecting and connecting your backpack again? Maybe also make sure that email in your backpack (from screenshot) matches the one you are signing in with.
I just tried retrieving badges on my local install and was able to see all public collections.
Yuliya
Dear Ms. Yuliya,
Good evening (IST)!
I am about the complete my Teaching with Moodle (Jan2016) course.
I continue to face the same problem that I faced in August-September 2015 NOT ABLE TO UPLOAD my earned badges available at Mozilla Backpack.
Can you please spare a few minutes to guide me to resolve this issue?
Thanks and regards,
Dr. R. Murugesan
