Getting feedback with quiz question

Getting feedback with quiz question

by Derek Chirnside -
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Moodle 2.6

Here's the scenario I want for a quiz:
  • Student answers Q1 and then when it is submitted, I want him/her to see feedback for Q1.
  • Then they answer Q2, and when it is submitted, I want him/her to see feedback for Q2.
etc.
Ideally they would be able to leave the quiz and return at any point to finish.
The problem is that with immediate feedback as the choice I cannot get the feedbacl to appear.  There seems to be no "submit" button at in my scenario, just a Next button.
What am I missing?
-Derek
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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Tim Hunt -
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Which question type are you using?

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Derek Chirnside -

Ah good point.

They are all essay questions.

Each has some general feedback.

-Derek

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Tim Hunt -
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Internally, Essay questions always use the 'manually graded' behaviour, irrespective of what you choose. (Because all the other behaviours rely on automatic grading.)

I can see why someone might want to do what you are trying to do, but it will require a new question behaviour add-on, or alternatively a new question type.

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Derek Chirnside -

Oh darn.  OK, is there a kludge?

I'm currently thinking of trying, with sequential:

Page 1:

  • Intro DESCRIPTION
  • Q1

Page 2:

  • Feedback for Q1, DESC
  • Q2

etc.

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It's really more of a warmup survey activity I want.
Here is the actual text I plan to use:

INTRO: Part of the programme has goals to do with self management and personal organisation.
This can be a tricky idea.
What is "organised"? For some people a "well organised" friend may be basically "uptight and inflexible".
What for some people is "flexible and adaptable" may be to others "Chaotic and unpredictable".
There are five questions following in the survey.
They are about
(1) your personal views and your approach to self management, organisation, scheduling, planning etc.
(2) tools you use
(3) any other comments you may have
Please answer at your own level of comfort.
You can stop taking the survey at any stage, and return later, but you cannot go back and change answers.

Q1. What makes a person organised? What are the characteristics of an organised person?

Feedback, After completing question:
Just a little bit of Feedback on this question. Some people like to keep a detailed diary, lists and so on. Some are electronic, others like paper, some like diaries, others prefer just a calendar on the wall.

Q2. Can a person learn skills to be better organised? Or is it just a matter of "that's who I am".

Feedback, After completing question:
This is an interesting question. Are we totally a victim of out genetics ("that was the way I was born") or can we learn some skills?
It is also about habits. Can we learn some habits of listmaking, planning, getting ready the night before etc.
What about meeting deadlines for a piece of work? What about simply getting up in the morning and being on time at work and not frazzled? Arriving at work with everything you need, and not forgeting your lunch.
Research suggests you can learn habits, skills and practices to develop capacity in these area. Motivation can be a problem.

Q3. Thinking about yourself. How do you organsise yourself? How do you plan?

Feedback, After completing question:
There are a whole range of possible responses here. Writing lists, using smart phone, using a notebook . . 

Some people develop specific habits ("Put my car keys on my lunch in the fridge so I don't forget my lunch")
Some people use postit notes on the door. Some of us in flats can schedule regular meetings to tick off the important decisions: ie planning is a specific activity planned for and scheduled, and not left to just "happen"

4. What tools do you use to keep yourself on track and organised?

eg diary, calendar, smart phone, notebook, postits

5. On the general topic of self management, personal organisation etc.

Hmm. It will be interested to see what we say here. Just one comment: all the research in this area suggests there is a lot of benefit from goal setting. If you have no goals then you can drift, not really focus on the right things, or not even know what the right things are.

Thank you for participating in this.

Thank you. From the Ski Patrol team.

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Tim Hunt -
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The other work-around is to use short-answer questions, where any response (*) is considered correct. The only draw-back with that is that the input box will only be one line.

Using the pattern-match qtype add-on, you could make the input box any size.

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by dawn alderson -

Hi there,

Derek, do you mean, are you saying... that you would like to create questions that provide immediate feedback per question? So, this would enable the teacher to plan an iterative learning type episode across a  question-set?  In other words, if I were to answer question 1, then having read the immediate feedback for that question, I would then be able to inform my attempt for question 2 from the outcome of my engagement with question 1.

Just a suggestion,  might there be a question missing there, in terms of developing strategies for organising one's self, you know, for example:

Once you have got your car keys from the fridge-carefully placed on top of the sandwiches, prepared the night before, for lunch- what strategies do you have when you find you are at the car with no shoes on?

smile

cheers

Dawn

 

 

 

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Joseph Rézeau -
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Hi Derek,

From the detailed description of the questions you want to ask, I suspect that what you need to use is not the moodle quiz activity but a survey-like activity such as Feedback or Questionnaire.

Also, if you changed your questions into more specific MCQ or "rate" questions, you might issue your respondents with appropriate feedback, using the - new to version 2.6 - "personality test" feature in Questionnaire. See the documentation for all details.

Joseph

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by dawn alderson -

Got you Joseph, understand.  Like those ideas.

thanks

Dawn

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Re: Getting feedback with quiz question

by Francisca Wentworth -

I am using essay questions for sentence writing using vocabulary words. I don't know if there is a way for a student to see comments per question. There is the feedback box, but students can't see the feedback. These are sentences that need to be manually graded. I want students to see their errors.

Thanks.