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Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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German and Tim, thanks for your feedback. I'm glad to hear that you approve of the change.

I've changed the name in the documentation in a few places today (Installing plugins, Add-on FAQ, Category:Contributed_code). If anyone notices it needing changing anywhere else, they're welcome to edit the wiki, or let me know if it's a lot of work or complicated to change.

 
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Mary Cooch
Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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"I am on the train" as they say( in a loud voice) on the way back from BETT.  I also like the term "add on"  very much. smileI'll take a look in the docs too and see if I can spot any changes that need doing.

 
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Gareth J Barnard
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So, to get this right smile

A moodle 'plug-in' is a 'plug-in' because it's included in the standard download and a non standard download 'plug-in' is a 'add-on' until it becomes a part of the standard download when it becomes an 'plug-in'.  But I've been told on chat that 'https://moodle.org/plugins/' will stay as 'https://moodle.org/plugins/' as it says 'WELCOME to our Plugins directory of add-ons for Moodle!'  but does it contain any standard download 'plug-ins'?  If not then it should be the 'add-ons' directory to avoid user confusion and ease documentation / training etc. ambiguity?

I think I like the name 'add-on' as 'plug-in' depicts something that you shove into the wall and flick a switch to turn on.  And it's more familiar to users as things they want as extras to their new product.

Cheers,

Gareth

 
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Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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Hi Gareth,

The issue here is that an Add-on on (at a around say moodle 2.0) can possibly become included as a standard plugin and distributed with core in a future moodle version (say moodle 2.5). 

When that happens a generic reference to the plugin across moodle version will be 'plugin' as it was add-on for some moodle versions but standard for some. They can also in future possibly be removed from the standard distribution. I think this is the reason why its still called the Plugins directory.

Hm, perhaps the welcome message could be made a simpler or clearer.

 
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Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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Hi Gareth,

I have amended the plugins directory description so that it now reads:

WELCOME to our Moodle plugins directory!

A plugin may be either a standard plugin (included in the Moodle download package) or an add-on.

Is that better?

 
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Tim at Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary
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Better, but to make it really true, someone ought to add all the standard plugins to the database.

 
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Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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Alternatively, we could add further explanatory text:

Standard plugins are not generally included in the plugins directory, apart from any which started life as an add-on and were then added as a standard plugin to a later version of Moodle.

(The book module is an example of this.)

 
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Gareth J Barnard
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So, using the 'Book' and 'Drag and Drop' as examples where their timeline would have been as an 'Add-on' for several releases and available in the database.  Then when it is made a part of the standard distribution it is still an 'Add-on' and the older releases are in the database.  Then a notice is placed on it's entry that since release X that it is included in the standard distribution.  An example of this happening is Davo Smith's drag and drop - https://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?plugin=block_dndupload - where he states "It should not be installed on a Moodle 2.3 site as it will clash with the built-in drag and drop upload.".

Therefore to avoid confusion how about renaming everything that is a plugin, standard distribution or 'contrib' to being an 'Add-on'.  Thereby keeping it simple and easy for users to remember and say 'Moodle is great as it is so intuitive' - less is more smile

I think this solves Aparup's described situation too.  And as 'Add-ons' are listed on the 'Plugin's' adminstration menu regardless of where they came from.

Cheers,

Gareth

 
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Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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Thanks for highlighting the fact that its not clear if its standard or Add-on sometimes. I've created MDLSITE-2153 to look into indicating this on a plugin.

 
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Re: New name for contributed plugins: Add-ons
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yes agreed! standard ones may be deleted from an installation so this would help.

 
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