Subject (hidden) Error

Subject (hidden) Error

by Graham Stone -
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I have just come across a strange error that has been reported by one of our  students.  When they go to the Forums page in their course they can see some posts but other posts have "Subject (hidden)" in the subject field and "Author (hidden)" in the author field and when you click on the post you get another error message that says "This post cannot be viewed by you, probably because you have not posted in the discussion yet"

Has anybody come across this before, it's new to me?

Thanks,

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Graham Stone -
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Sorry for replying to my own post but i've still not found a solution for this and I have a student who needs access to these forum posts ASAP.

Thanks,

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Graham Stone -
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I have still not found a solution to this problem and as yet nobody has been able to offer any advice.  Please could somebody help me?

Thanks,

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Kim Park -

Hi Graham,

I created a Q&A Forum, logged in as a student, & created a test post.  I am coming back to this after the weekend and now have a situation where I cannot see the test post to be able to delete it, even when logged in as an administrator.  I think there is something buggy here and I'm likely going to have the teacher delete and re-create the Q&A Discussion as I cannot see a way to delete this test post.  Even when I reply when logged in as admin to this Q&A Forum, I cannot then see this post to be able to delete it.  Something got corrupted unfortunately.   Just wanted to reply so you knew you're not the only one dealing with a Q&A Forum issue... - Kim

 

P.S. We are running Moodle version 2.2.2 (Build 20120312)

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Cora Y. -

Graham,

This forum has probably been set up as a Q&A forum. This type of forum does not allow students to see a response until they have posted their replies. I think the amount of time allotted for editing posts also has to pass. (Note that students are still able to add questions and those can be seen at any time.)

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Graham Stone -
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Hi all,

Sorry but I need to open this discusion up again as the problem still exists ( I thought it had sorted itself but a student has just reported it to me).  

Does anybody know what could be causing the problem?  The previous responses haven't helped as the Forum is set up as a 'Social' Forum not a Q&A

I look forward to any help or advice.

Cheers,

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Michael Phillips -

Maybe the student isn't giving you accurate information. For instance, in your original post you stated "When they go to the Forums page in their course they can see some posts but other posts have "Subject (hidden)" in the subject field and "Author (hidden)..." but now the student indicates it is a Social forum, not Q&A.

The problem is that the Social forum is only available when the Social format is applied as the course site's format. Ergo, the site is one, big, forum. Period. Below is a screen capture of the types of forums available for sites formatted as Weekly or Topics:

And, as the other folks who replied pointed out, the "hidden" message the student relayed to you is associated with the Q and A forum. 

Further, when the student stated to you that they have to "go to the Forums page in their course" - that could only be true if their course site was Weekly or Topics format, because the Social format is only a single forum... there are no other areas to navigate to, and the type of forum cannot be changed (as far as I can tell, when the Social format is applied). 

So, these could be two separate issues. Have you checked the permissions to determine if the instructor has tweaked any of them for the forum or forums in question? Whenever I believe I may be getting misinformation from someone (student or faculty member), I often ask them to drop by my office and demonstrate their difficulty. Ninety-nine percent of the time it is user error due.

Also, have you tried logging in as the student to replicate their problem (using the "login as" option)?

Please let us know when you do get to the bottom of this - the solution may prove useful to many of us in the Moodle community.

Thanks!

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Graham Stone -
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Hi Michael,

Yes sorry I should have said that when I checked the course in question it had been set up as the 'Social Format' and I have logged in as this particular student and can confirm that what she reports is correct, I was only able to see her post when logged in as her and all the other posts had the above error message.

I've checked how the Forum has been created to make sure it's not a Q&A but as the course format as been set to 'Social' it just displays the Forum type as social as well with no option to change it.

I'm wondering if changing the course format back to the standard 'Topics' might fix it but the tutor obviously chose this option for some reason.

Thanks,

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Re: Subject (hidden) Error

by Michael Phillips -

Graham,

I just learned something, triggered by your comment about "changing formats" from Topics to Social (or vice-versa). I experimented and did just that - created a Q & A forum in a weekly-formatted site, made posts as students, then changed the format to Social.

Lo and behold, the Q&A forum seemed to disappear, replaced by the Social forum (empty, of course). But... I then noticed a block called Social activities with the Q & A forum and the Social forum both listed!

I swear I've not seen this before, but it's probably been there all along (not many of our faculty use the Social format for courses). Notice, too (in the image) that you can also add resources and activities to the Social format... bizarre!

Well, not really bizarre, just surprising (at least to me).

Oh, well. I guess I couldn't help, but I did learn something.

Take care!