Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Kimber Warden -
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Is there a solution to the problem that's created when an answer directs a jump to an unseen question in a cluster but the student has already seen all the questions?

I have a content page followed by a cluster of questions that check comprehension. A wrong answer takes the student back to the reading page for review. A correct answer takes the student to the next content page.

If a student has seen all of the available questions, the lesson closes when the content page attempts to take them to an unseen question. Is there a strategy to avoid this? Here's my current setup:

1st Content Page (jumps to Begin Cluster)

Begin Cluster (jumps to unseen question)

Q1 (correct answer jumps to 2nd Content Page. Incorrect jumps to 1st Content Page)

Q2 ( " )

Q3 ( " )

End Cluster

2nd Content Page

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Re: Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Matt Fedorko -

Kimber,

I am having the exact same problem.

I made a test Lesson with a cluster to figure it out. What I've learned is that it seems to behave properly when you're previewing it as a teacher (because it replaces the "Jump to Unseen Question in Cluster" jump with "Next Page" jumps).

However, when you switch your role to student, and have seen all of the questions*, it dumps me to an error without showing me the last content page of the Lesson ("Could not find lesson pages").

If I click on Continue at this point, it dumps me to the Site Home, and the course I was just working in no longer shows up in the "All Courses" list. That bit is especially weird.

The structure of my Lesson is:

1st content page (CP1): Jumps to "Next Page" which is the beginning of the Cluster

Cluster: Jumps to "Unseen quustion within a cluster"

Question Page 1 (QP1): Right answer jump: "Unseen question within a cluster", wrong answer jump: "1st content page"

Question Page 2: (QP2): Right answer jump: "Unseen question within a cluster", wrong answer jump: "1st content page"

End of cluster: Jumps to "Next page"

Last content page (Jump to "End of Lesson")

* As an example, if I deliberately answer the first QP (let's say QP1) it gives me wrong, go back to CP1 and click continue, then answer QP2 wrong, back to CP1  and click continue, it errors out ("Could not find lesson pages.") I can get that to happen every time.

The same thing happens if I click the correct response on one of the questions, which takes me to the next question, then click the wrong answer, get taken back to CP1, then click "Continue."

And, oddly enough, if I get both questions correct, it completely skips the last Content Page and takes me directly to the End of Lesson page.

As a side note, I'm not clear on how the Cluster "Unseen Question" jump is supposed to work. Does it mean actually "seeing it" and not "seeing it and getting the question right"? How do I make sure that the student has to get the questions right before moving on in a Cluster situation?

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Re: Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Matt Fedorko -

Note 1: I've managed to find a lot of people on the forums who suggest shying away from using Clusters at all, which just gives me a huge boost of confidence! Really, I just found a teacher who, in an effort to force Moodle to do what he wanted, had placed a content page, then a question page, then REPEATED the content page, then another question page. The first QP, if answered correctly, jumped to QP2, and if they got that one WRONG, it jumped to the repeat of the content page, so when the student pressed "Next," they didn't have to answer QP1 again, just go directly into QP2. This seemed just a bit inefficient, and I thought Clusters would help me out here.

Note 2: Those same people suggested that, to test out clusters, you use an actual student account instead of just changing your role to a student. I did this, and got the exact same same results as above.

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Re: Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Matt Fedorko -

Sorry to keep replying to myself -- I keep missing my 30 minute edit window.

I followed the advice in the docs here (http://docs.moodle.org/20/en/Lesson_clusters) and changed all of my jumps from the Question Pages from "Unseen Question..." to jumps to the start Cluster page. I still had the same problem -- bumps me to a page that says "Could not find lesson pages." I tried by changing my role to Student and using a fake student account and had the same results.

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Re: Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Alessandro Rodigari -

I have the same problem.. in moodle 2.4.1 and 2.5.1 Is there a solution ? 

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Re: Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Kimber Warden -

Not as of yet, no. Please vote to have this issue resolved: https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-38222

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Re: Need solution when no more unseen questions in a cluster

by Miro Iliaš -

OK, I voted for that issue.

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