Hi
I want to check tjhat I understand the logic of the "create multiple questions" function correctly.
As I understand it, it creates duplicate questions (as many as you specify) of the questions in the category (ie. Linux Fundamentals)... this is why "Random Question" appears in the category once you have run the function.
1. Are these questions generated randomly only at that time ie. the quiz that you add these questions to will always have the same questions in them ..... OR are they _placeholders_ in the category (ie. Linux Fundamentals) for questions which would be randomly generated when a student attempts the quiz ?
I suppose the question really is: why is "Random Question" added to the category ? If I now go and add a new quiz and browse to the same category that I have used to create a random quiz from ... then those phantom "Random Question" (s) is still there.
aarrgghhh. Now I have made myself confused. Someone, please explain the logic behind the "create multiple questions" function.
Riaan
In reply to Riaan Bredenkamp
Re: "create multiple questions" --- please explain the logic
by Martin Dougiamas -
They are placeholders in the category (ie. Linux Fundamentals) for
questions which would be randomly generated when a student attempts the
quiz.
The idea is that you can then easily make a quiz which has two set questions (that everyone sees) followed by 5 questions randomly chosen from Linux Fundamentals, followed by 5 questions randomly chosen from another category, and then another set question at the end that everyone sees.
The idea is that you can then easily make a quiz which has two set questions (that everyone sees) followed by 5 questions randomly chosen from Linux Fundamentals, followed by 5 questions randomly chosen from another category, and then another set question at the end that everyone sees.
In reply to Martin Dougiamas
Re: "create multiple questions" --- please explain the logic
by Enrique Castro -
Hi Martin,
I understand how it works, but it took a while. I see illogical having here all those placeholders. They should be in the left part, the questions list for thsi particular quiz, not in the database.
I think it would be much more logical if the "add random question" and "add multiple questions" would be placed to the left, on the actual quiz question list, not the database or questions.
Another rather better placement would be as buttons below the data base list , just like the "<<add to quiz" botton.
- Enrique Castro -
I understand how it works, but it took a while. I see illogical having here all those placeholders. They should be in the left part, the questions list for thsi particular quiz, not in the database.
I think it would be much more logical if the "add random question" and "add multiple questions" would be placed to the left, on the actual quiz question list, not the database or questions.
Another rather better placement would be as buttons below the data base list , just like the "<<add to quiz" botton.
- Enrique Castro -
In reply to Martin Dougiamas
Re: "create multiple questions" --- please explain the logic
by Riaan Bredenkamp -
Thanks I get it now. Was a bit confusing. This does what I expected it to do. Just not in the way I thought it would.
I expected it to generate random questions that belong to the quiz you are creating, instead of creating questions in the category that then can be used in many other quizes.
thanks for the clarification.
I expected it to generate random questions that belong to the quiz you are creating, instead of creating questions in the category that then can be used in many other quizes.
thanks for the clarification.
In reply to Riaan Bredenkamp
Re: "create multiple questions" --- please explain the logic
by Timothy Takemoto -
Martin's explanation as to why there are random questions inside the quiz category does not wash with my tiny mind. One might be able to have a quiz with set questions, random questions, then more set questions, without their ever being random questions within the quiz category.
Having random questions inside the quiz category means that the program does not need to do the work of creating more than one set of random questions for a category that may be used in more than one quiz. In terms of programming grace, this is more effcient.
However, and this may be an unrelated issue...
One of the disadvantanges of using random questions at the moment is that the statistics package which analyses the discrimination, percentage of right answers for each question ceases to work because it cannot keep track of which question the student was assigned to. If instead of their being a set of random questions inside the quiz category which are referenced by each quiz, if instead each quiz had to create its own set of random questions (i.e. if the random questions inside the quiz category were done away with) then perhaps this might make it easier to keep track of the contented of quiz questions? To keep track of the quiz questions it would be necessary to create a set of questions not only in each quiz but also inside each attempt but having the random set generated on the quiz since would seem to be a step in the right direction.
TIm
In reply to Timothy Takemoto
Re: "create multiple questions" --- please explain the logic
by Philip Norton -
I agree with the sentiments here that the added random questions in each category is counter-intuitive. It also makes for clumsy handling of questions when you have to scroll through a list of 50 questions and 20 random ones (70 in total!).
Information such as the discrimination index is useful.
Philip