Posts made by Dr S Bhatia

No its not an old discussion. I just had a short similar discussion which you may read here

I am also reproducing my last post which deals with this thing

"Actually this is the best way of doing this also because you can then do the following:

  1. lets say you have a folder called www.yoursite.com/images
  2. put ALL your images there in various folders. eg. test1, physics1, chemistry1 etc
  3. Create your tests offline in textpad/notepad. A question would look like this:
    1. which is the correct diagram for water's behaviour with change in temp?<img src="http://www.yoursite.com/images/physics1/q1.jpg"> { ~A ~B ~C ~D =E}
This way you can create a whole quiz offline, successfully inserting the images also.

Security: since 'images' is a public folder, the students(who are pretty smart) may right click on images during quiz and locate the url of pictures. so do the following:
1. server: set server settings not to allow raw listing of directory contents(this will prevent people from publicly accessing the directory contents)
2. always show quiz in secure window where right click is disabled
3. enable hot-link protection on your site(so that other sites cannot use your images)
This will provide significant security, though nothing is fool proof."

N
ow your other teachers also cannot access this images folder because you had created this folder by ftp or c-panel. But if your question is a published one, then a 'smart' teacher can import it into one of his quiz without alteration, or worse, locate the url of images and 'leak' it out. So keeping the category unpublished will give max security as only you will know the exact urls of those images.(if you wanna share them, share them by all means)
Moreover, each teacher can also be given such folders to upload their images to be used in questions.e.g. www.yoursite.com/images/teacher1........now the problem will be uploading them if you do not trust them enough to allow them ftp access. This can be solved in one more way, the way discovery's website does it.
tell them to signup for a free site kind of thing like http://teacher1.freesite.com and they can upload their images there in a folder and provide links to it in their question.
Once again- your images are safe
other teachers' images are safe
cross usage can be prevented
student 'leak' can be prevented
hmmpphhhhh...........
tell me if i am wrong
1. Joseph is right. This belongs to lessons.
2. Yes, this problem exists. Even I face it.

"...I want the student to have one attempt and provide correct response or incorrect response feedback appropriately."

3. Since i have a different version, i cannot replicate your bug but i think you can try:
  • do not allow student review
  • whether or not the student answers correctly, the jump should be to 'next page' and not 'this page'. A 'this page' jump with review allowed will lead to this kind of vicious cycle BUT....if you have only four options, how many times CAN he answer incorrectly.(but that's not the point anyway smile  )

Moodle in English -> Lounge -> Good ideas club -> Re: Good ideas club

by Dr S Bhatia -
Well, Let me sum up a few things.
  1. Moodle already has a tracker device meant for 'serious' kind of idea generation, development, contribution and eventual inclusion. A lot of people already use it; it's ease of use is somewhat lesser than what an average moodle user is wont of.(Mainly due to its sprawling and expansive nature, new users feel like a villager in Mumbai)
  2. Most of the users of Moodle are educators who have just enough knowledge of computers to make their own versions work properly and they are anyway trying to do their own jobs.
  3. These are the people who actually feel the need for new/different features but at the same time most, though not all, lack the kind of persistent devotion required to give/develop/contribute towards contribution etc at tracker.
  4. Therefore, it certainly makes sense that a kind of forum be in place which allows them to toss an idea in the arena. If the idea gets enough cognition, it may be forwarded to those who have the ability to develop it (users/moodlers/moodle officials etc)
  5. A forum allowing only one discussion per person may be the way to begin with a limitation of posts per week. At this stage, I can say that I am ready to shoulder the responsibility of:
    1. perusing that forum daily (or five times/week)
    2. the ideas which generate good response or are feasible in my opinion can be put up for voting by me using 'choice' (since i am not in the moodle elite group, i can put this voting on my own moodle site and a moodle admin can place a link for that  (or I can create a 'new ideas forum' at my own site and moodle admins must put a link to it at a very visible place)
    3. The ideas which do get a certain minimum no of 'yes' votes can be forwarded by me in a comprehensive, concise format to Martin or someone designated for this purpose.Minimum votes required may be decided by moodle administrators (500, 1000 etc)
    4. This way, though an additional forum will exist here(or at my site  with referral link from here), Martin and co. will have lesser headache to monitor it.
  6. If you like what i say, do give it a go-ahead.
I may be wrong but what i understand is that they will NOT be seeing the correct answer in adaptive mode (since you mention second attempt)
They should however be able to see them after the quiz is completed provided you have ticked all those options in quiz settings.
The more we complicate it Sherry, the realisation will dawn that results don't differ significantly (statistically, i.e.)
conclusion: why complicate it then?
My request for a category wise grading was for likert scale type questions used in psychological testing where nothing is right or wrong...only various personality traits are being tested(and they too, i'll confess, are arbitrary)

EDC is interesting ; yet....i suppose there is no reason to try to bamboozle the students so much. After all, the purpose of education is to make them understand what's correct, isn't it? That's why short answer and essay type will NEVER be outmoded coz that's exactly what they do...find out whether or not she/he knows the stuff; in a SIMPLE way.
So much gradation/sub-gradation, micro-gradation......and then you come out with results like 97.65 percentile and 97.63 percentile and somehow, all the universities are convinced that  the guy with 97.65 MUST be better than 97.63 one.
I feel so much complication in grading is un-necessary unless used for very specific type of tests.

And then there was a book called 'Why do very smart people make very dumb mistakes'? smile