Any moodlers out there willing to spend 15 minutes sorting out my first-installation of moveable type woes? I'm using Redhat 9.
If so, could you shoot me an email?
TIA,
-Tom (don't know much about ____)
I believe all the cool people are moving away from Moveable Type to a real open source alternative:
http://wordpress.org/
http://wordpress.org/
I've used WordPress before and liked it as a blog quite a bit. I'm just giving up on building non-moodle web pages by culling together bits and pieces of the webpages of others.
I also have never been able to stand pre-made stiff stuff like Dreamweaver samples.
I saw these designs: http://www.projetsurbain.com/lightandday/ and thought the engine would be useful. If you think WordPress might work in the same way, I'll go for it.
Thanks,
Tom
I also have never been able to stand pre-made stiff stuff like Dreamweaver samples.
I saw these designs: http://www.projetsurbain.com/lightandday/ and thought the engine would be useful. If you think WordPress might work in the same way, I'll go for it.
Thanks,
Tom
Pretty site that, but sorry, no idea about the details of the packages. I just saw some talk about the new MT licensing and that some people were fleeing to Wordpress.
Drupal is also pretty good-looking .. I looked at their code recently and it was nice and clean.
Drupal is also pretty good-looking .. I looked at their code recently and it was nice and clean.
Hi!
I am a bit confused. It took me a while to figure out what "Movable Type" was (I think I figured it out correctly). It appears to be some time of "Blog" software.
Isn't Daryl working on incorporating "SimpLog" into Moodle?
Simplog Discussion
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=7934
"SimpLog" is also a "Blog". Is it not?
WP1
I am a bit confused. It took me a while to figure out what "Movable Type" was (I think I figured it out correctly). It appears to be some time of "Blog" software.
Isn't Daryl working on incorporating "SimpLog" into Moodle?
Simplog Discussion
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=7934
"SimpLog" is also a "Blog". Is it not?
WP1
So "Movable Type" is actually a full CMS and not just a "Blog"?
Timothy, if you want to create many CMSs from one program, try eZpublish. It will allow you to make multiple sites at the same time. It uses multiple templates. You need multiple databases in order to do this however. It is located at,
http://ez.no
WP1
Timothy, if you want to create many CMSs from one program, try eZpublish. It will allow you to make multiple sites at the same time. It uses multiple templates. You need multiple databases in order to do this however. It is located at,
http://ez.no
WP1
Dear W Page
I think that the dividing line between blog and CMS is hazy. Blogs seem to be set up well for publishing articles and allowing comments on them. CMS often have more blocks, like moodle. But blogs like Movable type have lots of blocks too available as plugins.
I had a look at eZpublish too but while it is open source, it seems to be rather more tightly bound up with a company that has a PRO version. I think I may also have wanted one of the features in the Pro version. So i decided to stay away. Good is it? I have heard people say that they like the Pro version.
Tim
Hi Tim!
Really do not know much about the Pro version as I have only installed the "free" version. eZpublish has now enabled the program to install on Apache systems with PHP running as a CGI as well as an Apache module.
I like eZpublish because it offers different types of templates depending on your CMS needs, for example, Bookshop, Corporate, Forum, Gallery, Intranet, Personal Homepage, News, and Plain. Each of the templates needs a separate database to install.
To check out some examples of what one can do with an eZpublish site point your browser here,
http://ez.no/ez_publish/references/educational
I would suggest you download and install it. See how it works. Then you can determine if you like it.
WP1
Really do not know much about the Pro version as I have only installed the "free" version. eZpublish has now enabled the program to install on Apache systems with PHP running as a CGI as well as an Apache module.
I like eZpublish because it offers different types of templates depending on your CMS needs, for example, Bookshop, Corporate, Forum, Gallery, Intranet, Personal Homepage, News, and Plain. Each of the templates needs a separate database to install.
To check out some examples of what one can do with an eZpublish site point your browser here,
http://ez.no/ez_publish/references/educational
I would suggest you download and install it. See how it works. Then you can determine if you like it.
WP1
Drupal is much better than wordpress for free and open source. http://www.drupal.org
I am currently using Expression Engine as I was fortunate enough to get a free copy http://pmachine.com
I am currently using Expression Engine as I was fortunate enough to get a free copy http://pmachine.com
Dear Tom Murdock
I am pretty good with Movable Type. I have been using it for a while now. It was the first thing I got installed. It is the thing that makes my homepages for me.
I must say that the new licence is a bitch. And due to the fact that Movable Type is in perl,
I was hoping to move to a php based script anyway. A move is on the cards. But the attraction of Movable type remains.
I am pretty good with Movable Type. I have been using it for a while now. It was the first thing I got installed. It is the thing that makes my homepages for me.
I must say that the new licence is a bitch. And due to the fact that Movable Type is in perl,
I was hoping to move to a php based script anyway. A move is on the cards. But the attraction of Movable type remains.
I am still with Movable type for the time being because it has a really friendly user interface and an even friendlier community, but with the new licence that community is likely to be gradually thrown to the winds. But for a long time, the movable type community was utterly wonderful.
Last time I looked (about three months ago), Drupal was rather complicated (books anyone?). Drupal does not allow one to create multiple sites (blogs). Drupal did not even have notifications (email announcement) unless one used a plugin. Drupal on the whole was geared towards a community site rather than a site created one person with the possibility of comments by others. Drupal struct me as being a bit more like a super-forum. Movable type is more like a simple nuke-ish CMS. Umm...Also I think that there was a problem with the compatability of Drupal and Moodle. Something to do with the smartquotes setting or something like that.
When I last looked at the other blog software (wordpress, serendipity, nucleus) they looked more promising. Wordpress and Serendipity have very attractive user interfaces. There is not need to "rebuild" as there is in Movable Type. But of these, only nucleus seemed to allow multiple blogs. I have more than one web site (A teaching web site, a religion website, a films website, a collaborative project website, a seminar website). The Movable Type engine allows you to create mulitiple websites which are independent of each other with the click of a button.
I am thinking of moving to a more fully fledged CMS. After playing around, I thought that I would go for Xoops in the longer term. Xoops is really easy to install. It has a very professional user interface. It is really really fool proof. It is also made in Japan which makes it very Japanese language compatible. But again, it does not create multiple sites. But if I am going to have to move to something which does not support multiple sites then it may as well be very advanced.
Mambo was equally attractive and easy to use (like Xoops) but it seemed to have less of a community. Postnuke seemed more open and "the future" but they seem to be arguing with each other and splitting off. And anyway I could not get my postnuke running. phpNuke seemed to be too one-guy-centered and not open enough. I did not try phpNuke for almost political reasons! I bet it is easy to use though. Typo3 is "rocket science" and a different thing entirely. Maxdev's CMS seemed too nerdy so I never tried it out.
Nucleus is fine but again a bit nerdy. The ethos is minimalism with lots of plugiins, which is a good idea but I wish that they would produce a heavy metal nucleus package that has various plugins installed. I was set on nucleus for a while. I like the ethos.
What is the name of that site again, where you can try them all out? Here it is
http://www.opensourcecms.com/
I have Drupal (but perhaps it does not work that well now that I have set my server to be compatible with Moodle not Drupal), Nucleus, Movable Type and Xoops installed.
Anyway Tom, if I can be of services I will try.
see also
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=3383&parent=15575
Tim
takemoto
Come to think of it...I seem to have spent a lot of time seting up CMS
The first four are using my trusty old movable type installation
My movable type main teaching site (Japanese)
http://eigodaigaku.com
My movable type Shinto (religion) site made with the same MT instalation
http://www.nihonbunka.com/shinto/blog/
My movable type films and (sad) thoughts site made with the same MT instalation
http://www.burogu.com
My project work movable type site (Japanese) with the same MT and a password
http://www.nihonbunka.com/es/
My attempt at a "re-writers community" MT site, with a different installation
http://tim.econo.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp/rw/
My nucleus blog test site (I was convinced I would move here)
copying my main teaching site (Japanese)
http://www.nihonbunka.com/nucleus/
My nucleus blog site (same nucleus installation) for my seminar but never used. (Japnanese)
http://www.nihonbunka.com/zemi/index.php
My Drupal test site (no content)
http://tim.econo.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp/droop/
My Xoops test site (no content)
http://tim.econo.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp/xoops/html/
My squarespace hosted blog test site
http://rewriters.squarespace.com/
squarespace has a realy great drag and drop upload facility (using active x)
My moodles, for good measure all in Japanese
http://yufoe.com
http://yuego.com
http://idaigaku.com
My main moodle site
http://lala.rnd.cc.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp/mootim/
Wow!
Thanks Tim (and all others who have contributed to my query).
I think I have a lot to sort out here and explore. Thanks so much for the excellent ideas and resources.
-Tom
Thanks Tim (and all others who have contributed to my query).
I think I have a lot to sort out here and explore. Thanks so much for the excellent ideas and resources.
-Tom
Tom
Mits Yoshida, the guy that translates Moodle into Japanese just recommended me the siteframe version called lagrange. This looks excellent too. It does not have the rich text boxes but it looks like a really good way of making group blogs.
If only the groups and ratings on siteframe could be integrated with moodle. Siteframe's power and simplicity make it look good for a blog module.
But it lacks, for instance the mobile blogging modules available in CMSs like XOops and Geeklog. And there is only one developer (a genuis by the look of things) rather than a whole community.
Tim
Hi Tim,
Have you checked out Daryl's SimpLog module yet?
Simplog Discussion
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=7934
He is updating the file today, Suggest you DL and try it out tomorrow,
http://moodle.org/download.php/modules/ blog.zip
WP1
Have you checked out Daryl's SimpLog module yet?
Simplog Discussion
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=7934
He is updating the file today, Suggest you DL and try it out tomorrow,
http://moodle.org/download.php/modules/ blog.zip
WP1
I also went for http://Xoops.org , and was quite satisfied with it (it now has a module of Moodle . And it is OO
if You need more of a blog, check out http://www.geeklog.net/ (seems quite simple and security prone)
if You need more of a blog, check out http://www.geeklog.net/ (seems quite simple and security prone)
On the subject of blogs and portals. I would recommend Expression Engine if you have a little cash to spare as it does support multiple web sites and is fairly easy to use with a good support community by the users and developers.
I am however looking for a portal that has Korean localization as my wife has asked me to build her a site that she can manage after it is finished. She does not want to learn code so blocks would be great. The localization is necessary so that her vistors (non-english speakers) will understand the menu's, commenting systems, and membership options. Hopefully all of this is included - but not 100% necessary.
If you have any suggestions please let me know. i would use Expression Engine but it doesn't use blocks and currently does not have a Korean language pack.
I have heard great things about Expresion English even before it was released, that the developer is a genuis etc.
But anyway, with regards to a good portal there are some people running Xoops sites in korean so perhaps you can persuade them to share a language pack with you.
http://www.xoops.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=416
But Xoops is not multi-site either.
Geeklog looks very good too. It seems to be closer to Xoops and the portals than a blog. It comes in Japanese so a Korean version would be just a question of translation (rather than encoding issues), it is very fast. Wow.
So many to choose from.
Tim
takemoto
Hi potential bloggers,
I have spent a long time thinking about what blog software to move from now that Movable Type has become expensive. Wordpress and Textpattern were strong contenders being both open source and very user friendly. On the other hand Siteframe appeared to be a bit spartan in that area. The most promising alternative to me was NucleusCMS since it had multiple blog capability, near essential to me with several blogs and the desire to offer blogging to students. But Nucleus (perhaps excepting the new super BlogCMS form) seemed rather spartan and geeky since it does not have the friendly, sort of feminine (sorry), beautiful administration back office of Movable Type, Wordpress or Textpattern (the latter being exceptionally attractive).
Recently, however I have come accross b2evolution, a (yes) evolution or fork of b2 (aka cafelog ?), from which Wordpress was also derived. b2evolution seems to combine the attractiveness of Wordpress, and Textpattern with the multiblog power of Nucleus. So I recommend b2evolution. At least until more multiblog cms become available.
HOWEVER, Geeklog does seem to be very powerful. Shame about the name perhaps? At the same time there seem to be many nifty geeks there and the weekness of b2evolution is the shortage of developers. Hmm...there are too many blogs!
I will move from movable type some time soon.
Tim
I've no direct experience but from general chatter I'd say go with Wordpress. I found a link with some hints and advice for making the transition that mentions the 'problem' of multiple blogs.
Interesting aside: when I was searching for that blog (as I thought I had heard comments about multiple blogs in Wordpress before, your question in this forum was the fourth result in Google. I wonder if I just happened to search shortly after an update. I've read that popular and often updated sites can be spidered more often by Google.
I know that the general chat says Wordpress but, I am really surprised by the other fork, b2evolution.
I agree that one can use multiple installations of Wordpress but two or soon to be three of my blogs are really the same one (two languages and one linkblog) so the same user base would be nice. And there is a nifty bookmarklet that opens a multiblog input window in the side bar. One bookmarklet lets you add to all the blogs. I guess that there are other global settings that will be nice to keep in the same place. I recommend at least that folks check it out.
Tim
I am using Expression Engine which while not open source or free is very powerful. I originally used MT as well and switched when they moved to 3.0 and the really crappy licensing schemes.
I looked at wordpress but didn't like the fact that to run multiple blogs requires multiple installs. I was going to go with b2evolution but got a good deal on expression engine and am very happy with it. There will be a community blog module coming out soon (eta not announced) which will allow users to self-register and get access to the admin panel with a default blog already set-up. The development of this product is quick with a robust user community - if you can afford it I highly recommend it. You can see the two blogs I am currently running Blinger: ESL & Linguistics and Let's Learn Korean.
If you want to stick with opensource scripts I would recommend drupal.
I looked at wordpress but didn't like the fact that to run multiple blogs requires multiple installs. I was going to go with b2evolution but got a good deal on expression engine and am very happy with it. There will be a community blog module coming out soon (eta not announced) which will allow users to self-register and get access to the admin panel with a default blog already set-up. The development of this product is quick with a robust user community - if you can afford it I highly recommend it. You can see the two blogs I am currently running Blinger: ESL & Linguistics and Let's Learn Korean.
If you want to stick with opensource scripts I would recommend drupal.