i am creating a quiz with multiple choice and paragraph answers and i want to give the option to the students to answer 4 out of the 6 paragraph answers. How do i set this up?
thank you!
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Filimon Diamantatos -
Number of replies: 9
In reply to Filimon Diamantatos
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Rick Jerz -
Out of curiosity, what do you want your grading logic to be if they answer 5 or all 6 questions?
In reply to Rick Jerz
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Filimon Diamantatos -
Basically ignore the two lowest answers (no answer or "wrong").
It is just a technique to help the students a bit. Give them 6 topics and they choose the 4.
It is just a technique to help the students a bit. Give them 6 topics and they choose the 4.
In reply to Filimon Diamantatos
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Rick Jerz -
Okay, drop the two lowest scores.
Hmm, I don't know how to do this. Maybe someone else will provide ways.
I used to do this with "exams," keeping the best three of four. I was able to do this because the grade book provides "equation" capabilities. But I never needed to do this within a quiz, so you have me stumped.
In reply to Filimon Diamantatos
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Filimon Diamantatos -
I ended up making two sub-sections on the "exam" section, and I made the 6 questions as 6 different assignments. Then in the grades setup, I combined them "natural" aggregation with "drop the 2 lowest scores"...
I think there should be a way within the same quiz the have different grade calculation methods between each section. It would be helpful to others I think..!
I think there should be a way within the same quiz the have different grade calculation methods between each section. It would be helpful to others I think..!
In reply to Filimon Diamantatos
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Rick Jerz -
Yes, that would do it. But a lot of work.
The multiple choice questions are "right" or "wrong." How about the essay questions? Are they "right" or "wrong." If so, then you could solve your problem with some simpler logic in the grade book. Adjust the grades so that 4 or more = 100%.
Or, maybe separate the quiz into only two sections: Multiple-choice, and essay.
It seems to me that essay questions attempt to get students thinking differently from multiple-choice questions. I wonder about the pedagogical assessment you seek?
As another alternative, convert the essay questions into discussion topics, and require that students make at least x number of posts. You can also award points on how well the students address the topic (like 1 to 4 points awarded).
The multiple choice questions are "right" or "wrong." How about the essay questions? Are they "right" or "wrong." If so, then you could solve your problem with some simpler logic in the grade book. Adjust the grades so that 4 or more = 100%.
Or, maybe separate the quiz into only two sections: Multiple-choice, and essay.
It seems to me that essay questions attempt to get students thinking differently from multiple-choice questions. I wonder about the pedagogical assessment you seek?
As another alternative, convert the essay questions into discussion topics, and require that students make at least x number of posts. You can also award points on how well the students address the topic (like 1 to 4 points awarded).
In reply to Filimon Diamantatos
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
The "sections" reminded me a format we've had decades ago in certain big high-stake exams: The paper was divided in to three sections. The first section was compulsory; in the other two one had the choice of dropping one question in each section. "What, if one answered both?" was never a question, because nobody would do that, we are always short of time and tried to get the maximum marks by investing that time in the questions that carry marks. No, that kind of question papers are not among the possibilities in Moodle quizzes.
But I notice that you talk of "paragraph answers", probably you meant the Essay_question_type, means you mark manually. Why don't you give 0 marks to the questions to be dropped, even if they were answered? You can even add a comment to the marks saying that this answer was dropped.
But I notice that you talk of "paragraph answers", probably you meant the Essay_question_type, means you mark manually. Why don't you give 0 marks to the questions to be dropped, even if they were answered? You can even add a comment to the marks saying that this answer was dropped.
In reply to Visvanath Ratnaweera
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Dominique Bauer -
I’m sorry to join the conversation a bit late.
The main difficulty with this issue is assigning points for only four questions when there are six possible topics.
Allow me to cut this Gordian knot as follows: offer six topics in an information question and simply provide only four essay questions. In other words, the instructor lets students choose the four topics they want to answer from the set of six, and provides only four essay questions. It’s so simple that I wonder why I didn’t think of it earlier.
If you want to be a bit fancy, you could replace the information question with a multiple-choice question and use a small script to insert each of the four selected topics into each of the four essay questions.
What do you think? Isn’t it disarmingly simple? Is there something I’m overlooking?
In reply to Dominique Bauer
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Filimon Diamantatos -
That could actually be a workable solution!!!
ideally there could be a way to do it "properly" in moodle (like different grade calculation methods per section), but i think your solution is the best possible altreative..!
ideally there could be a way to do it "properly" in moodle (like different grade calculation methods per section), but i think your solution is the best possible altreative..!
In reply to Visvanath Ratnaweera
Is there an option for the students to choose 4 out fo 6 questions to answer?
by Filimon Diamantatos -
That was one of the first things I tried, but I had a problem with the automatic calculation of the total grade, because if I were to give the points to all the essay questions, then the "extra" questions would increase the total of the exam! and therefore alter the real grade. Example following: the mutiple choise would be a total of 5/10 and the essay questions the remaining 5/10. so if i were to give to 6 questions 1,25 (so that 4*1,25=5) then the total of the exam would be 12 (6*1,25) and not 10, so then the student would get (for the essay section) a max of 5/7 so 3.57/5 so a max of 8,57/10 for the exam! (am i missing something??)
Also, students wouldn't answer more questions than needed, but we would neet to assign potential points to all questions, so we can grade any combination of 4 answers, so all would need to be gradable. and that leads us to the problem above..