Looking for collections of high school math + phys + cs questions

Looking for collections of high school math + phys + cs questions

by Michael Jenner -
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Subject almost says it all: "Looking for collections of high school math + phys + cs questions". 

I've searched for collections of questions without much luck. 

Question types: any of built-in and formulas and stack. 

Topics: mathematics, physics and computer science. 

Level: high school, k10-k12. 

Maybe you know of useful sites or places where collections can be found? 

I'll have to translate them, but that is less work than doing them all from scratch. 

Kind regards, 

Michael 

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by Marcus Green -
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Stack has a folder with examples, and also search for the HELM workbooks with strack questions (engineering ..)
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by Dan McGuire -
What is Stack?
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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STACK (in all caps) will soon fetch an entry from the Glossary of common terms.
big grin

Sorry, that was mean. I added the following entry only just now (waiting the OK from the site admins): "STACK (System for Teaching and Assessment using a Computer algebra Kernel)  is the world-leading open-source online assessment system for mathematics and STEM. It is available for Moodle, ILIAS and as an integration through LTI. In Moodle it appears as the additional question type STACK which runs on the open source computer algebra system (CAS) Maxima as its back-end."
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by Marcus Green -
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STACK is amazing (if quite complext)
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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- STACK homepage: https://www.ed.ac.uk/maths/stack

- The (new) demo site: https://stack-demo.maths.ed.ac.uk/demo/

- Source repository: https://github.com/maths/moodle-qtype_stack

- Sample questions: In your moodle/question/type/stack/samplequestions/STACK-demo.mbz and other mbz files.
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by Marcus Green -
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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Hi Michael

What comes after the tool? Of course the content!

The problem with content, even if people want to share, is that they are so diverse: Type of education, academic level, subject, language, state and institution level curricula, "schools" of teaching (pedagory), ... which ultimately comes down to each teacher delivering unique content. This has been recognized not only at state levels but also in the UN. They propagate the idea under Open Educational Resources (OER). I know you speak German. I find this resource Digitales Lernen und Lehren mit OER quite comprehensive. The irony is, you'll find more information on OER than OER itself.

In your case your focus is STEM, which is more clearly defined - but still vast. I'm involved in a group where we aim to develop Moodle quizzes on IT, CodeRunner, VPL, VPL question type and some Formulas type, mainly on programming and networking. The idea is to share them among their sister institutions. Still, I can invite you to peruse them, use whatever is useful and to give us feedback. I can't promise whether using them right after the summer break is a possibility. I will contact you PM.

Sorry, no Formulas questions though, which would have been the ideal question type for STEM. I am referring to your other thread: Formulas: cheat sheet - please review.
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by Michael Jenner -
Well put, I couldn't agree more! After several years (10+) in high school I must confirm that sharing and reuse is surprisingly difficult or time consuming to the point where it often is easier to create from scratch, and that is despite people being very willing to try. The latter point stresses the importance of access to a efficient tool for creating materials and tests. 

Nice reference 😉
 
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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The discussion reminded me that Martin D. has invested a lot on OER a couple of years ago. Check his keynote speeches in various MoodleMoots. I haven't (I should have) followed the projects, I think MoodleNet (MoodleNet) is a central one.
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by Rick Jerz -
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I think the general idea of sharing question banks is a great idea, but it has some issues.

1) Sure, you can develop 500 questions for free and give them away. Everyone loves developing something for free and letting others benefit, right?
2) Who is going to maintain the question bank? Well, questions never need fixing, right?
3) Whoever uses the question bank should still verify that every question is correct before using it. Right?
4) How do you know that the questions were not created from copyrighted material? How do you verify that every question is "original?"
5) Where are these public question banks hosted? Is someone going to host the questions for free?

Of course, the issues that I mention might all be resolved in one way or another.

In my own situation, I prefer to find a great textbook from a recognized publisher, even if the textbook is not free, and to use the publisher's question banks. Typically, the questions in the publisher's question bank have been peer-reviewed by several "experts" in the field; they have been used by many instructors, and instructors have provided feedback for inaccurate questions, and the publisher has fixed the questions. In this method, people are, in general, getting paid for their efforts.

I have never minded giving publishers feedback without getting paid. This is my way of providing improvements. But publishers also recognize that they need to pay for more extensive help. (I have been paid to review chapters in textbooks and to review and develop questions. It takes a lot of time.)

Incidentally, if you are creating questions from scratch, I suggest using Moodle. Moodle provides great tools for developing questions.
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by Dominique Bauer -
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Rick,

Your comment is, in my opinion, extremely relevant.
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by Marcus Green -
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I have over 1,000 English language Gapfill and Wordselect example questions if anyone is interested.

https://github.com/marcusgreen/moodle-qtype_gapfill/tree/master/examples/en

https://github.com/marcusgreen/moodle-qtype_wordselect/tree/master/examples/en

With categories and tags and a Creative Commons license

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Ang: Re: Ang: Re: Looking for collections of high school math + phys + cs questions

by Michael Jenner -
Rick,
Very valid concerns you share indeed and combined with Mr Ratnaweeras point regarding difficulty of sharing I agree, this is nontrivial to "get right".

Regarding the copyright problems I think this issue can be solved for math and classical physics and science topics in general due to: (a) copyright of books last 70 years after the longest living author (if multi-author book), and (b) it's more than 70 years since Comenius, Newton, Euler, Lagrange, LaPlace, Otto Lybeck and Peter Andreas Munch passed. Not many of the assignments in these "old topics" are really new and if you can relate tasks to early books this part of the problem can be solved.

There are probably bigger problems, such as tagging or categorising questions so that they fit very different currilula.

Kind regards,
Michael
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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Rick

Rhyming with the others: Nobody denies the difficulties in sharing content. The current state is the proof: If it had been easy, there would be much more sharing!

But we can also make the path to sharing unnecessarily complicated: For example, by tackling it at a global level, at all educational levels, for all subjects, all curricula, in all languages. No please, let's stay focused at the OP's request.

Some quotes from the OP:
> "Looking for collections of high school math + phys + cs questions".
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> Question types: any of built-in and formulas and stack.
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> Topics: mathematics, physics and computer science.
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> Level: high school, k10-k12.
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> I'll have to translate them, but that is less work than doing them all from scratch. [means in English]

Since CS/IT is mentioned I would bring CodeRunner question type, VPL and the VPL question type in to this. I have seen CS/IT questions made with the core Moodle question types like MC, Yes/No,.. which tend to be questions around the subject ("Who invented Pascal?) rather than in the subject (Write a Pascal program to sum a series of unknown number of integers). Bringing this may sound like too much, but at the rate samples are arriving and the rate the OP is progressing, if he needs, I don't see that danger coming (for the OP).

What do we have so far?
- DynamicCourseware.org/Formulas qtype - Question bank  for the Formulas question type and Dynamic Courseware for what could one do with Moodle quiz and JavaScript.

- MoodleNet, although not limited to STEM nor Moodle question types, it is an astounding demonstration of what technology could do (if the minds go together).

- https://github.com/marcusgreen/moodle-qtype_gapfill/tree/master/examples/en viz. https://github.com/marcusgreen/moodle-qtype_wordselect/tree/master/examples/en, although not strictly STEM it prooves that it is possible to maintain question banks on the Web, even with proper versioning (the Git work-flow).

- The question creation and dissemination project at a grass-root level which I mentioned previously. There are no plans (and means) to put them on the Web on a larger scale but the OP now has access to study the work-in-progress.
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by Marcus Green -
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There are a large number of STACK example questions that could be the inspiration for formula questions. However they seem to be aimed at graduate level rather than school level.


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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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I agree. The STACK question type is already in the above list.

Yes, the collection of STACK example questions is huge. But they are more aimed at the graduate level. No wonder looking at the academia active there. What we are looking for here are (collections of) sample questions for high school. If anybody knows, or want to announce own collections, you're welcome!
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by Marcus Green -
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This could be made to happen through "political" decisions. For example here in the UK if a group of councils decided on an OER policy with a bounty for teachers who created freely re-usable questions it would be possible to create a big resource in a small amount of time for a modest cost. Insert your layer of education for where I mention council.
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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Future plans, especially the money part, make one's mouth water. But are unlikely to have on the table for the coming Fall semester > ref Formulas: cheat sheet - please review.

One could imagine that such "political" programs must have produced the kind of content we are looking for. So the request is references to collections that were made in the past.
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by Marcus Green -
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Nice freely redistributable resources are available, but not so much in Moodle formats, e.g.

https://collection.bccampus.ca/subjects/math-stats/
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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That is the whole problem. There are tons of "open" content but not in the format, subjects, etc. we are looking for (in this thread).

That means, 
a) Moodle quiz questions in the core question types, Formulas, STACK, CodeRunner and VPL
b) in STEM subjects
c) at high school level
d) in English
e) explicitly licensed under an open license or in the public domain.

We haven't seen little so far. I am ready to relax a). That is, in still questions, but not necessarily converted to a Moodle question type.
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by Marcus Green -
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Indeed, and it surprises me how little there is. The availability of so much high quality freely redistributable content (as I liked to) implies there is no lack of will. MoodleNet was created to address this issue, but has not made the progress I expected.
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by Mary Cooch -
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If you have any high school maths, physics, CS questions, please upload them to MoodleNet. There are some quiz questions there already on various subjects, but not many for school
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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It is scary how ThatTube reads your mind. I went there for a different Moodle video, then this came as a further suggestion:
Take Your E-Learning to the Next Level with 100% Free Moodle Resources
https://www.youtube.com/watch?foo=bar&v=RYUI7la001k

In that I found an hint on this resource: 
Middle & High S. Math: 2200+ Resources
https://www.geogebra.org/m/kewpjrue

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by Dan McGuire -
Thank you, Visvanath for alerting me to this discussion.
 
Here's one example of what you describe, Marcus. The Minnesota Partnership for Collaborative Curriculum. There are some of the level of question there that you, Michael, want. It was begun in 2012-2013 and there are still some curriculum being added but not frequently, lately. This curriculum exists as Google Docs much to the disappointment of several of us who were part of creating the resources. I was responsible for the elementary science and those are designed to be used in Moodle. Because it was a true grass roots type of project that received no funding from any source other than the 200+ Minnesota school districts that contributed a few dollars per student, decisions were made by consensus and most of the 200 districts did NOT use Moodle. They'd been seduced into thinking that Google Classroom was an LMS.
 
I've also been involved in creating middle school math curriculum. This post describes that work. This curriculum is GeoGebra's version of Illustrative Mathematics embedded into Moodle courses. GeoGebra has put all of the I-M curriculum into their web based version. My contribution (with a lot of help from others) was to put links to all of GeoGebra's problems into Moodle course shells. They're just shells. The idea is that a teacher will add introductory directions, more quiz questions that they create, and scaffolding as appropriate for their students. All of the content mentioned so far is openly licensed with Creative Commons licenses, which means that a teacher no longer needs to say, "Well, the book says this, but...." which is a phrase uttered by almost every teacher using a published curriculum.
 
The GeoGebra curriculum is a web based version of  Illustrative Mathematics which is distributed by KendallHunt. Illustrative Mathematics is a version of Open Up Resources. Both Open Up Resources and Illustrative Mathematics are openly licensed - and, they both make deals with proprietary distributors who put the openly licensed curriculum into proprietary LMSs and then charge lazy school districts anywhere from $10-$50 per student per term for the privilege of using the free openly licensed curriculum on their locked down LMSs.
 
If anyone wants to help me put it all into openly licensed Moodle courses, please let me know. 
 
OpenSciEd is an organisation that's creating openly licensed science curriculum and making it available begrudgingly for free and openly licensed (and also cutting deals with proprietary LMS vendors.) They have lots of pictures.
 
Let me know if you want more details or have questions about any of the above.
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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Thought this current post is relevant: Is anyone here using STACK for GCSE/A Level maths.
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by Marcus Green -
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Good catch Visvanath. I may update that to say "high school maths" as there will be a huge overlap between the UK curricula and that in other parts of the world. One of the things I have been exploring is how to present assorted Graphs in maths questions and the answer generally is JSXGraph. However it does require a certain amount of Javascript ability which can be a barrier. One of the things I like about STACK is the ability to use random variables so students can re-take a quiz multiple times and get different example values at either attempt.

This is something I have been very interested in for a long time and I am delighted I now have a chance to work on it.
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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Hi Marcus

I'm sorry, if I diverted your discussion Is anyone here using STACK for GCSE/A Level maths from the Mathematics tools forum to this Quiz forum. Though I encountered STACK a few times, I don't find applications in my courses. I had the chance of meeting the European STACK community in the last MootDACH, MootDACH23. That was impressive.
 
Still I wonder whether there is a divide, like the Haves and Have Nots, in the academic skills necessary. I hear the Formulas question type is already too difficult. Or to mention a real example, people use VPL or CodeRunner just to "collect" the student answers - they are corrected manually! I question, whether giving them complete VPLs or CodeRunner exercises will help, if the teachers can't understand them.
 
Just a rant. Not expecting solutions (in the near future)!
sad
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by Marcus Green -
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Rants about things being hard to use are always welcome in my book (it is actually valuable feedback).
Currently I am dreaming in STACK and will have things to talk about by MoodleDach24 Vienna at the start of September.
Update: Not just dreaming, also working very hard on.
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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"dreaming in STACK"? Do they look like this (can you choose the language)smile
 
So, you'll be in action on the coming MoodleMootDACH24? I don't see the schedule yet. I would be nice if there's focus on CodeRunner, VPL and Formulas this time.
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by Marcus Green -
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We will know the full schedule just after morning coffee on the first day smile... For a wider audience it is an "unconference" where people pitch their ideas on the first day and the attendees get to vote on what they would like to see. Though from memory they do have streams of general areas, and last year STACK was one of the streams. i would certainly attend a presentation on formulas, being a long time fan of the plugin but with very little experience of using it...
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by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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Rick

I thought, I can answer some of your questions. Please understand that these questions nor answers are universal. So, where we don't agree, we don't have to convince the other.

> 1) Sure, you can develop 500 questions for free and give them away.

I wonder how much Socrates charged for his (rhetorical) questions.
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> Everyone loves developing something for free and letting others benefit, right?

Sure! You don't have to look far: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KH7nh6M4QKW6KTKCudIX69eSR8YAE6BY/view

> 2) Who is going to maintain the question bank? Well, questions never need fixing, right?

Looks like you're not familiar with the distributed versioning model, for example the Git workflow most of the system administrators use to maintain Moodle code. For examples, see https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=459630#p1847324.

> 3) Whoever uses the question bank should still verify that every question is correct before using it. Right?

Of course. As the teacher it is your responsibility, and the privilege, to transfer only right things to your pupils.

> 4) How do you know that the questions were not created from copyrighted material?

One has to differentiate between two types of uses: a) in a closed group, say in your class. Then fair use gives lot of freedom. b) Things you put on the (public) Web. Then check the copyright the author claims. It works smoothly underCC licenses.

> How do you verify that every question is "original?"

Personally, I don't know how much of what I teach or taught are "original". I always thought the hard subjects like mathematics, science and engineering are repeating what "all" (except our students) know.

> 5) Where are these public question banks hosted? Is someone going to host the questions for free?

Again, you are thinking in terms of central repositories. The distributed model doesn't need any hosting. A Git repository is just a directory tree. I can have mine, you can have yours. Usually, one forked from the other. If we want to adapt each others modifications, the Git workflow allows to do that in a granular way. These "hosting" services like GitHub are just that, added services.

> Of course, the issues that I mention might all be resolved in one way or another.

That the point I mentioned at the beginning. These are not solved universally. Each individual has his own solutions for some or not for the others.

Pl. note that I've replied to the questions/statements to which I have an answer or something to say. I left out the others.

> Incidentally, if you are creating questions from scratch, I suggest using Moodle. Moodle provides great tools for developing questions.

Exactly! That was what meant by "questions" in the subject "Looking for collections of high school math + phys + cs questions". Which I later explicitly formulated as "a) Moodle quiz questions in the core question types, Formulas, STACK, CodeRunner and VPL", and then relaxed. See https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=459630#p1847752.

Edit: Just arrived: How much does it cost?