Possible Webspace for MOODLE developers

Possible Webspace for MOODLE developers

W Page發表於
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Hello!

I thought all you folks who are developing different modules and things for MOODLE would apprreciate this information.

1and1.com is offering free webspace with database until January 21st.  I am lead to believe that they are entering the US market and are trying to get people to experience their services. They are located at,  http://www.1and1.com

  • 500MB total webspace / 100MB (maximum) for Database (Only one database allowed)
  • Offers up to 50 POP and SMTP e-mail (50MB each - I think)
  • Offers webmail (I think 1 but I may have misread)
  • Can reach website via FTP, Browser (FTP) and SSH
  • Have to install phpMyAdmin yourself (not too much of a problem).
  • Control Panel can be a pain to navigate but once you get the hang of it not toooo bad.  No CPanel type interface.
  • Can install as many websites as you want to, just have to keep in mind there is only one database allowed with the free promotion.
  • Servers load the pages very quickly.
  • Can run Pearl, PHP, HTML, SHTML, SSI, Crons

I installed MOODLE v1.2 after I learned how to install phpMyAdmin.   Site loads quickly.  Not perfect features but for "free" it works well and offers a lot of webspace.

Hope this helps some folks who are looking for a large amount of webspace with database to test MOODLE that is free and not slow.

WP1

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Re: Possible Webspace for MOODLE developers

W Page發表於

Agree, but the issue here is FREE with a lot of features.

WP

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Bryan Williams發表於

I got a 1and1.com free account when first announced last fall.  They claim their servers are all located at big data centers in the US, but I doubt it.  Checked with them in December about automating the Moodle install like other providers and it was a big duh, doubt we can do that. You get what you pay for!

I have been using http://www.ez-web-hosting.com/ for awhile and could not be more pleased.  They have plans that include MySQL and auto Moodle install starting at $14.95 per month (US).  There service response time to questions is top notch and when they don't know something, they find out.

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W Page發表於

Hello!

I understand what you mean.  I have a pay host with a nice CPanel interface.  phpMyAdmin was also previously installed.  Much more pleasent experience

But again I say this is free and consists of a large amount of space (500MB) with the ability to have 1 database (up to 100MB max).  For some folks who love MOODLE and are good programmers but do not have the funds for a website to do testing, this will be good.  It made me learn how to install phpMyAdmin and also how to use "PUTTY" to help install phpMyAdmin.  I never knew you could download a file into a webspace and then unzip it.  Saved a lot of time.

Overall however 1and1's instructions are not as explicit as they need to be so webmasters at all levels can understand them.

I really want to learn how to use the SSH they offer.  The instructions in 1and1 are kinda "shaky" and the "Putty" site searms to assume some basic knowledge by the user.

Anyone know of a good online tutorial on using putty for CRONJOBS and Backups?  Please share.

WP1

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André Krüger發表於
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Hello,


1 and 1 is a good choice in Germany. You have a large amount of space and you can choose, how many databases you will have.In Germany you get with this package licences for several software.But
you have chance to get the apache log-files.

At the moment we have a problem with the development Moodle version 1.2.. You can see it here.
I have no idea to solve the problem, and I don´t know is that a problem with 1 and 1 only.

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Paul Norrod發表於
WP1, I also signed up for one of the free 1 & 1 accounts about a month and a half ago. I already have what I think is good inexpensive hosting (will post a recommendation after this coming semester is over if everything works out - if anyone is really interested email me at pmnorrod@yahoo.com and I will let you know who it is).

I immediately found the 1 & 1 "control panel" to be extremely cumbersome and slow. I think it is better to pay a few bucks and at least get a host that has Cpanel or a similar good control panel. I also would never pay what they want after the three years are up ($29/month). Still, for free I am keeping my 1 & 1 account open to use as backup site in case my main host ever fails for an extended period.

As to Putty, it is quite easy to use. Just download it at www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
and use the exe file (there is nothing to install). When you run it the first time just put in your domain name or the one 1&1 gives you (xxxxxxxxx.onlinehome.us) in the "Host Name" window and click the SSH radio button. Then go to the Connection category and enter your 1&1 userid in the "Auto-login username" window (for 1&1 it is the userid they assigned you when you signed up - probably a "u" followed by some numbers). Go back to the Session category and type in the name you want to save the session as into the Save Sessions window and click Save. When you want to run this session in the future, just click on the name in the Session window, then click Load, followed by Open. It will start an SSH session on your 1&1 account and you will have to enter your password to get in. Once in you can use Unix/Linux commands to do what you need to do (you will need to get a book or read-up online about Unix command line stuff).

Another nice SSH client I use is SecureNetTerm ( www.securenetterm.com/html/downloads.html ) . It is shareware so you have to buy it if you want to remove the nag screen you get when you exit it. It has more features than Putty, but either one will do the job.

Good Luck!
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W Page發表於

Paul,

Thank you so very much for taking the time to explain this putty-SSH thing.  I have not found it easy to get information or tutorials even after internet searches.  Hopefully Martin will keep your post link in mind and refer to it when folks need instructions on how to use SSH and/or PUTTY ( I am sure I am not the only one who needed help with this.).

As you can see from my previous posts I agree with you about the features offered in this 1and1.com free promotion. 

A webmaster novice (which I still am to some degree smile) is going to have a bit of a hard time negotiating their control panel.  If this promotion is to show what a good service they provide the control panel they have is not a good selling point.

But it is free.

Thanks again,

WP1

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John Gone發表於
I've been here since Feb 2003 and I don't recall anyone but you and I ever requesting help with SSH, I could be wrong. This is probably why there is very little documentation existing. I'm certain that if you were able to document the process and post it here somebody, someday, would appreciate finding it here.

These links may help while doing research for your documentation:
Paul Norrod - Putty tips
http://www.tartarus.org/~simon/puttydoc/Contents.html
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/docs.html
http://www.yip.org/support/windows/ssh/putty.html
http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.52/htmldoc/Chapter3.html
and so on

Unix command line documentation

All the best,

John
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Steven Day發表於
My friend just introduced me to Total Choice Hosting. Their plans start at $4/month for 300mb plus mysql, php support, and a nice control panel. If you need more space, their prices remain reasonable. Get a month free for paying for a year in advance. Cancel at anytime and get refund. No problems for me thus far. Their URL is: http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/

Hope that helps.
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Alvin Shaffer發表於
If we are plugging our host, let me mention www.hostrocket.com
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W Page發表於

HostRocket has a very good reputation.  This is backed up on WehHostingTalk.com.  I would really like to get some opionions about this "banwidth roleover" they are offering.

WP1

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John Gone發表於
Well, if we are plugging our host I'd like to mention mine too. I was sure my previous host was the best, I stayed with them for 2 years and they just kept outdoing themselves. Great support, very on the ball and I could phone them. They even answered the phone. Who could possibly ask for more? Me.


Was it possible to ask for more and get it? Yes.

Where?


I don't know about the phone calls but we can do a web conference.



I consider myself very lucky. I no longer even think about hosting. It is just always there and it just always works. I won't even mention the features that come standard.
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Steve Edwards發表於

I hope I will not be out of line if I mention that we also host a growing number of moodles now.  I don't want to compete, with Martin on the big stuff, or take bread off of his table but we comfortably host smaller Moodles for less money .... like US250 per year including all set up charges.  Websites we do for much less.  www.totalqualityhosting.com  not a fancy front end but we offer an easy to use control panel access and sufficient space and bandwidth for small Moodles of up to about 100 users.

Steve.  www.totalqualityhosting.com

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W Page發表於

I checked out their web packages.  I will check them out further when I have more time. 

Thanks for the information.

WP1

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Paul Norrod發表於
First, as has been posted before, I would say that if you can possibly swing it the way to go is to host with Martin at moodle.com (hosting with the person who designed the software that you are running - it has to be a dream of us moodle admins out there smile).

Unfortunately, many of us are running our operations on a shoestring (almost always the case in education), so we need to look at alternatives. I, for example, am paying for my host out of my own pocket and since I host screen capture videos on my site I need tons of filespace and bandwidth. I have found the inexpensive hosting world to be a rather slimy business with hidden policies and sometimes outright lies. Still, if you are willing to work at it and are careful (very careful), I think you can reliably host for a reasonable amount of money ($300 or less per year).

Fred Langa who writes the Langa List (langa.com) recently wrote a story about hosting for Information Week that you might find helpful if you are searching for a host. It is at http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=16400938


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W Page發表於

Hi Paul!

I am aware of the Langa List.  I am goint to read the article.

I also agree with you about "inexpensive" hosting.  It can be reeeeal "shaky" and in the long run more expensive.

WP1

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steve cassidy發表於

I installed MOODLE v1.2 after I learned how to install phpMyAdmin.

I have phpMyAdmin installed - how do I use it to install Moodle?