Manual grading - web page format

Manual grading - web page format

Velson Horie -
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In my quizzes, ca 50% of questions are text format with manual marking.  Most are short questions with single line answers to get the students used to choosing their own words to express their concepts.  The teacher's feedback is in the supplied answer so the comment box isn't used much.

But the screen real estate taken by these single lines is huge, see figure. Only one answer at a time can be seen on my monitor.  I spend most of my time scrolling through empty space, not marking.

Is there any way that these boxes can be reduced, prehaps automaticaly expanding to 2 lines longer than the text being supplied by student/teacher?



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回复Velson Horie

Re: Manual grading - web page format

Tim Hunt -
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When you create the Essay question, you can set what size the input box should be. That will control how the student's response is shown.

I think you are right that the comment box should be smaller to start with. Please create an improvement request in the tracker (https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Tracker_introduction)
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回复Tim Hunt

Re: Manual grading - web page format

Velson Horie -
Tim
Thank you (again).
Although I am now on 3.9, most of my questions were created late in version 1, when I cannot recall a size option. You developers have improved things enormously. I would therefore need to find and edit every text question to suit. 

But more importantly. For most answers, I can predict the length of a good (or reasonable) answer and it is usually short and to the point. But the diagnostic ones are usually long and rambling as the student struggles around the concept. It is those that give the best clue to the misunderstandings of the student, which can therefore be corrected.

So I do not want to restrict the student from going astray by specifying a shorter response, even implicitly.

At the moment, the question text box (~15 lines) as input in the editing screen is automatically reduced to the minimum number of lines neeeded in the question box as seen by the student (and marker).  I suppose I am asking for some mechanism like that for the student response box.  The teacher comment box can be decreased in size as default and expanded as necessary by the teacher. Has Moodle any boxes that expand automatically with more input? 
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回复Velson Horie

Re: Manual grading - web page format

Tim Hunt -
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The change to the size of the response display was done in MDL-68277, and I still think that it is a fundamentally correct change.

I agree that if you have a lot of existing questions where the suggested response box size is wrong, then it is annoying. However, I think you questions would be 'better' if you set the answer box size to something appropriate. (Whether it is enough better to be worth the effort is another matter.) When answering the question, the student can always expand the box.)

Note, the full student response is always shown, even if it is longer than the suggested size.

If you really want to override the display, then find a way to inject the CSS (e.g. https://docs.moodle.org/39/en/Header_and_footer)

.que.essay .qtype_essay_response.readonly {
min-height: 0 !important;
}
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回复Tim Hunt

Re: Manual grading - web page format

Velson Horie -

Thank you for the history of the change of the response box.  I am not up to modifying the Moodle core, so shall accept what you have achieved.

You couldn't have chosen a more rigidly size defined expected response than a haiku or sonnet as the criterion for designing a response box.  But why not equally expect In Memoriam or a pun?  I like to enable the student to try out different response methods, so they find out for themselves (with my nudging) that precision, and brevity, is an advantage.

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Re: Manual grading - web page format

Marcus Green -
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'I am not up to modifying the Moodle core, '
Modifying Moodle core is almost always a bad idea. What Tim has suggested is not modifying core, is quite easy (so long as you have admin access) and because of the way the CSS is structured is not a bad idea. Take another look at the link Tim gave.
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