Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martin Dougiamas -
Number of replies: 30
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Hi, all.

It's way overdue for a developer conference so we've scheduled one for February 3rd. smile

My intention is for us to have an open chat about the Moodle Roadmap towards 2.0 and beyond, Moodle.org, Moodle.com, and any other major issues people want to raise.

I must stress this is for Moodle Developers (those who have CVS write access) only. This is not because there is anything secret about it but just to keep the numbers down to something manageable. We will make an effort to publish the outcomes and maybe recordings here for everyone who isn't there.

I guess we'll use Elluminate like we did last time. More details later.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Jamie Pratt -
Does 'Moodle Developers' include people with contrib write access? I've write access to contrib but I'm not clear if there is a seperate privilege for access to the main distribution CVS repository.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martin Dougiamas -
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Any Moodle CVS write access!  big grin  Contrib too.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Jamie Pratt -
Oh wonderful. I shall look forward to attending.

Jamie
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Vu Hung -
Hi Martin,

What about the translators? We also have the CVS write permission.

I'm very glad to join the conference. I would like to say something about using Moodle in Vietnam and provide our helpful suggestions for Moodle. I would say Moodle is rocking Vietnam. It's the most popular LMS and has a strong support from the ministry of education.

Cheers! 
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Ludo (Marc Alier) -
Hi!
I'ves seen in the calendar February 3rd that the chat event is betwen 21h and 23h... this calendar displays my local time or the australian one?
Anyway I'll be there.
Ludo
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Ludo (Marc Alier) -
Please, more details on Eluminate? Will be my first timesonrojado
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Tony Hursh -
Hi, Ludo. Elluminate requires a fairly sizeable download the first time you use it, but after that it starts up pretty fast.

If you go to http://www.elluminate.com/ and click on the "Experience a live demo" button, you can get the necessary Java code installed, test your mic, etc. ahead of time.

We use Elluminate for a lot of our classes, and have had really good luck with it.

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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martin Dougiamas -
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If you are logged in using your account and have set a timezone in your profile then it's in your time frame.

Otherwise, it's server time which is Perth, Australia.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Ludo (Marc Alier) -
Thanks Martin,
for the spanish developers that will bue at lunch time... I'll have a pizza and a beer on my desk ;)
Ludo
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Michael Penney -

Jeff and I would like to be there, but it's betwen 5am-7am California time. Any chance we could push it forward an hour or so?

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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Penny Leach -
Want to swap? It's 2-4am for us wink
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Dan Stowell -
I hope to be 'there' in the conference! Thanks Martin for choosing a time which is kind to UK-based people! Presumably because there'll be lots of OU people involved? smile
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martin Dougiamas -
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No, nothing to do with OU particularly, just trying to make the best time for the most people (Eastern US, Europe and Asia).  This was one of the two sweet spots we arrived at last time.

The other one is probably about 9-11pm EU, 3-5pm US, 10am NZ, but this is about 5am for Asia (and me smile ).   Perhaps we should alternate between these two time slots.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Michael Penney -

Perhaps we should alternate between these two time slots.

Didn't you say that last time (at 6am California tongueout)?

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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by koen roggemans -
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Yes, good plan. The only other option is to make the world flat again, but that seems too much trouble to me.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Mike Churchward -
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by koen roggemans -
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Oh, I missed that news. Then it is easy: there exists only GMT and the rest of the world should finaly put his watch right, wich is going wrong since Pythagoras!
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Mitsuhiro Yoshida -
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There is no problem for me from 4:00 am to 9:00 am ( Japan, GMT+9 ). smile

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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martín Langhoff -
> Perhaps we should alternate between these two time slots.

Yes, let's alternate some time! big grin
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martín Langhoff -
Ouch! I hadn't realized... oh, well. I'll be shattered for the rest of the week.

Sleep is for wimps I guess...
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Jason Cole -
I plan to sleep when I'm dead, personally. It's the only way I'm going to catch up at this point.

There will be a few OU people attending, but we'll all be sitting around one computer.

J


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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Robert Brenstein -
I wanted to wait with the announcement until a few people test this, however, since the topic of the conference is the roadmap but I am not in the group that will participate, I thought it is appropriate time and place to mention that I have implemented assigning courses to multiple categories and subcategories in Moodle. I've been using a crude version since October on my production site. I am now wrapping up a full implementation with proper web interface for Moodle 1.5.x.

Functions already modified or added

- adding a new course to Moodle
- deleting a course from Moodle
- removing one or more courses from a category
- moving one or more courses to another category
- adding one or more courses to another category*
- standard and custom sorting within a category
- navigating category tree
- removing a category or subcategory
- changing visibility of several courses at once*
- changing visibility of one or more courses within a category*
- changing visibility of category or subcategory
- controlling display of category tree

Functions marked with * are new or improved.

The capability to have one course listed under many course categories has been requested by many Moodlers but is not explicitely mentioned in the roadmap.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martin Dougiamas -
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Thanks, Robert, first I've heard of your work!  It makes sense to add those functions.  When that's wrapped up let us at it.

Please don't feel bad, the basic roadmap is just that.  The journey itself always includes a lot of other stuff!
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Howard Miller -
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I've been a bit quiet recently, but I should be there. Looking forward to it!
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Janne Mikkonen -
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I'll be sneaking in, sucking all the good will and happiness of this development crew. And the world shall be mine... hahahahahaa (I've just lost it...).

- Janne -
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006

by Martin Dougiamas -
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Bryan Williams from remote-learner.net, one of our great Moodle Partners in the US, has graciously allowed us to use his Elluminate meeting room again  smile

Here is the meeting link ... make sure you get there early and set up the Java client you'll need:

     https://www.elluminate.com/mtg.jnlp?password=982387505

Bryan is also holding a big MoodleMoot next week in Savannah, Georgia  which many of us are attending (including me!).  If you haven't already made plans for that and you think you can make it, come along!

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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006 - session notes

by Helen Foster -
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Hi,

Please note that session notes are now available here: Moodle Developer conference February 2006.

To everyone who attended the conference, please add your notes too. smile

(Edited by Martin Dougiamas - Saturday, 4 February 2006, 05:44 PM)

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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006 - Elluminate recording?

by David Delgado -
Could we have access to the recorded session in Elluminate? I would like to take a look at it, since I only have read access to the CVS (tester), I was not allowed to participate. Could we have that? Can we have a link in MoodleDocs?
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006 - session notes

by Robert Brenstein -
I saw in the conference notes that there was a question about including my work on assigning courses to multiple categories and subcategories in 1.6.

I am sure it will be ready for inclusion in 1.6.x but surely not the initial 1.6.0 release. It needs to be thoroughly tested by a larger group of people first since the changes are not trivial and affect a number of Moodle areas, including core libraries.

However, if the database changes (additions that is) are done for the initial release of 1.6, and thus included in the code that ugrades from 1.5.x as well as the code that does course backups and restores in 1.6, then the actual functionality can be added at any time Moodle masters decide to include it. This would make testing easier as well. New language strings could also be added right away, so they get translated before the functionality is actually implemented.

My current goal is to set up a public demo/testing site by early March to iron interface and basic functionality issues before releasing php patches for others to try on their Moodle sites.
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Re: Moodle Developer Conference - 3rd February 2006 - Conditional activities

by David Delgado -

I also added some comments to the Conditional Activities feature planned for Moodle 2.0, since here, at CICEI (Center of Innovation for the Information Society), we are working a lot on this thing. Please take a look at http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=36697.

This is just what I put in the session notes at MoodeDocs:

Conditional activities - different attempts at conditional activities in the Using Moodle Conditional Activities forum; generating a course page for each user requires lots of processing. # Possible solution (David Delgado): add a conditional activities on/off selection for each course, being defaulted to off. Normal behaviour would be just the same as now, and conditional activities extra processing power would be used just for the courses that would need them. So, we would get the best of both sytems: fast default behaviour (no conditional activities used) and powerful adaptive e-learning posibilities (conditional activities used). Could it be a good solution? Hope so. smile

I have just noticed the link to the new Conditional activities page, and created it. Linked it in the Developer documentation.