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WordPress Now Powers 25% of the Web

 
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WordPress Now Powers 25% of the Web
 
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Re: WordPress Now Powers 25% of the Web
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Congratulations to Automattic. I like what I have seen in Wordpress. however it is wise to be careful when comparing Moodle with Wordpress as they are very different systems.

Wordpress core is a relatively small small system. A fresh install of Wordpress is around 11 tables and a fresh install of Moodle is around 300.  Word press concentrates on doing one thing well, Moodle core does lots of things.  Wordpress seems to have done a good job of encouraging 3rd party plugin development. Moodle has improved in this area over the last few years, and now I find the world of wordpress 3rd party tools to have a slightly wild and exciting edge.


 
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As Marcus has said, Wordpress is nothing like Moodle, not even the same market niche: wordpress a blog that morphed into a CMS (as well), Moodle, well, maybe an LMS.

  1. We could learn a bit from Wordpress as to how it handles it's development, it's UX/UI changes and it's roadmap.
  2. BUT, if I need another blog, I'll be going for Ghost: https://ghost.org/
    and this: https://www.elegantthemes.com/blog/resources/wordpress-vs-ghost
    I've been interested at the transparency of Ghost: https://blog.ghost.org/year-2/
    A wonderful roadmap: https://trello.com/b/EceUgtCL/ghost-roadmap

But, 25% of the web is incredible.

-Derek

 
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I had never heard of Ghost, thanks for that Derek. I have been reading the discussions on Wordpress at 25% of the web at Slashdot. Some folks were disputing that figure, but however you slice and dice it, Wordpress is running a huge amount of the web. One of the dangers of this of course is that any security issues will also affect a huge percent of the web. That's no fault of the Wordpress people who I believe take security seriously.

 
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Hi Marcus, hi Derek

I agree with both of you that WordPress and Moode can not be compared one-to-one since one is a CMS and the other a LMS. But we can compare them in their approach. As both of you've observed:
- in size
As already mentioned WordPress core is tiny, Moodle core is huge

- in complexity
WordPress core does very little - but you'll find a plug-in for virtually anything. Moodle core tries to do everything that an LMS needs to do

The net result, for me, is that I can and enjoy doing deep changes in WordPress whereas I try to avoid at any cost doing the same in Moodle. I took a long time to regularly use a web-based (GUI!) tool to create web content. From the era of hand-made HTML I stayed with WML http://thewml.org/ a long time. Recently, just for content, I've chosen WordPress and wouldn't think of going back! (Well, at least for the kind of content I am involved in.)

Let's forget the number 25% of Internet. The point is, WordPress must be the number one CMS by a huge margin. Can Moodle claim that for LMS?

@Derek
You wrote:
> We could learn a bit from Wordpress as to how it handles it's development, it's UX/UI changes and it's roadmap.

Can you elaborate on that? May be you've already written that in moodle.org. In that case just give some pointers.
 
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The point is, WordPress must be the number one CMS by a huge margin. Can Moodle claim that for LMS?

I suspect the answer is yes as the site registration indicates around 79 million users and I suspect the number of sites in use is bigger by several orders of magnitude. But that is just guesswork and I'm happy if nobody focusses on proving it.

https://moodle.net/stats/

I think one of the lessons is pluggability, Moodle should make even more things open to having plugins work with it.

 
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Good article here about LMS adoption in the US:

http://edutechnica.com/2014/09/23/lms-data-the-first-year-update/

Shows Moodle at around 16% in the US in 2013.

Peter

 
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A recent version of LMS usage at http://edutechnica.com/2015/10/10/lms-data-3rd-annual-update/ shows Moodle use higher than Blackboard in Canada and UK in 2015.

 
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It's an impressive achievement have to give them that, I think the figure reflects ease of use of the platform. Wordpress has certainly come a long way since I was looking into what to use for a couple of sites a decade ago.

At that time I narrowed it down to Wordpress, Joomla/Mambo or Drupal. Other than a simple blog Wordpress couldn't cut it, I wasn't too sure how things where going to turn out with the fork of Mambo to Joomla so settled on Drupal due to it being more of a development platform than an out of the box CMS per se so figured we could use it for whatever came up. Rather a steep learning curve but even now I would probably make the same decision (mainly due to familiarity I guess but I still think you can get more done without having to resort to paid modules).

That said, it's worth having a look at other platforms now and then so I really should have a closer look at it nowadays ... I just haven't had the time recently.
 
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