How to add pre made content

How to add pre made content

by Fernando Souza -
Number of replies: 6

Hello,

I've been approached by a major English publisher which is offering their content to me. The offer is very good but I'm afraid that importing this content will demand a lot of work. So far I haven't seen a straight forward solution for it and that's why I'm posting this here and maybe one of you could give me a solution for this.

The first sample they sent me had audio and video files and pdf versions of their printed material. I told them that it would be pretty easier to add everything to a moodle course, but in order to make Moodle evaluate students, check course progress and allow students to submit material for personal correction, I would have to manually insert all questions that were in the pdf file to moodle. This is ok for one or two lessons, but if we think of a whole course, it would be very time consuming.

Then they said that also had the content in inDesign files, so I asked them to send the samples to me. I have to admit that I don't know much about inDesign and I got a bit lost. But once again, I think the scenario here is not very different from the PDF scenario. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

They've also sent me XML versions of those PDF files. I tried to import them into Moodle, but somehow it gives an error message. Something like 'there aren't questions designed in the file'.

Does anybody here could give me a suggestion/solution on how to procede with this?

Thanks

Fernando

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Re: How to add pre made content

by Mary Cooch (personal account) -
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Well, I am no expert but I would suggest maybe looking at a way of packaging it all as SCORM which would enable you to add it to Moodle. There are some free SCORM programs and some paid for ones - take a look here http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Creating_SCORM_Content

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Re: How to add pre made content

by Fernando Souza -

SCORM is also a very new world for me. Probably it would also be as time consuming as manually inputing the PDFs content into moodle.

So, would SCORM be the only solution in this case? Do you suggest any other alternative?

Thanks

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Re: How to add pre made content

by Mary Cooch (personal account) -
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Well yes I guess so - and if you have a lot of pdf ,audio and video files and you'd need as you say manually to insert the questions to get scores out, there really isn't that I can see an easier alternative whether you do this the way you first suggested or whether you use SCORM to package it all together -either way it is a lot of worksad

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Re: How to add pre made content

by Derek Chirnside -

Fenando, this is a deep question, very complex and is far from trivial.

It seems you are wanting to do more than just a content dump online.  (well done!!)  Quick comments and thjoughts follow.  I'll start with the important question: are you sure Moodle is the best platform?  If you are tied into it, then the question is settled.  The basic fact is that is is easy to add premade content, just X number of uploads where X is the number of items.  However this is rarely educationally sound . . .  as you suggest in your post.

1. It is a while since I used Indesign, but it now has powerful options to export for web.  But I think this is a job for a professional.  You will have to decide if you deploy as web pages or PDF.
I recommend that you check to see if PDF files from ID could merely be saved as HTML and uploaded.  Indesign may be smart enough to have ONE source and two outputs, print and web.  The nirvana we have all been looking for since XML and docbook came onto the scene.

2. At the moment I am doing a small job for a publisher deploying in a Moodle course over 1000 items: powerpoint files, SWF alternatives and PDF fragments from Book + workbook.  ie a kind of messy transition between paper and web.  They have actually reformatted the book (I think it is in Indesign) for the web by making the pages a different shape.  The plan: sell the zipped course file to schools using the text book.  Think about your business model if it is relevant.

3. It is on my to do list to post a question about: what are the workflows for course creation that people use now Moodle 2 is into it's third iteration?  There are no multiple file upload options still.  What is REALLY cool is the display description check box.  Last week I asked Tim what the progress was on the OU workflow for 2.0 (they have some really cool workflows) but they are too busy at the moment to consider making it available.  I suspect many of the bigger users of Moodle do use SCORM or the other uploadable things.  I really must figure out what an IMS common cartidge is like and what it can do.  The Moodle docs page is here http://docs.moodle.org/dev/IMS_common_cartridge, but is a little out of date and the latest I can find here http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/IMS_Common_Cartridge_import but it is just a stub.

4. If you have any plans to include Moodle questions, then there are import possilities from files, ie you don't have to create questions individually using the forms.  Indesign questions > Importable files should not be too hard.  I'm happy to look at one file if you like.  If you go this way, save yourself some angst: get help to do the rouotine work.  Hire someone from your whanau to just hack in and create the files from the pages.  If you can, pay in carbohydrates.

5. Lesson may be one way to go in Moodle, But I have no idea if there is a quick way to create one.  http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Lesson_module

You have many variables to consider: time to develop vs time saving with self marking and learner autonomy.  Reuse options: do you make something slightly more 'generic' meaning others can use it and dare I say contribute $$ or time.  What is passable and what is really contributing to learning goals.  I actually feel a blog post coming on here.

My preferred method in this case that suits MY style, given the sparse information in your question:

  • Decide on a time budget, approach and workflow.
  • Know your audience.
  • Establish goals, asessment, outlines.
  • Set up the content, forums, groups well in advance according to your course plan, goals - preferably the whole course.
  • Plan weekly activities including quizzes, and work on these three weeks in advance using the current feedback from the class to help inform your future design.  Use some paid help for mass deployment.
  • Enlist your class in active feedback. 
  • Tweak the material as you go ready for next year. 
  • Keep really really good notes on how it goes.
  • Build in breaks for you and the students.
  • Remember to keep your teaching and non-teaching in balance.

-Derek
Good luck!!!!

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Re: How to add pre made content

by Fernando Souza -

Hello Derek,

Thanks for your question! I've read it carefully and I think there is not an easy solution to this issue, unfortunately. I'll eventually have to find lots of time in order to fully integrate the material into Moodle. 

Since you've mentioned, yes, I can send you the indesign file samples so that you can have a look at it. Maybe by doing so, you can have an idea of what to do with it. How should I send it to? The files are bigger than the allowed attachment size in this forum.

Thanks!

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Re: How to add pre made content

by Kate L. -

Hi Fernando,

I know this is an old discussion, but I was wondering if there was any resolution and in what format you imported the content? 


Thanks!

Kate