Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Alex Ashton -
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I'm relatively new to this but installed 2 and it appears as though you can;t set the Stage Size (the window for displaying SCORM) in the current window. A lot of the templates provided squash it up too much with only the standard being a reasonable size for displaying SCORM content.

I don't want pop-up if I cna help it. Am i missing something?

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Dan Marsden -
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Hi Alex,

the SCORM player in Moodle 2.0 has been re-designed - the old player window "allowed" you to set a stage size but it did not work reliably as most Moodle Themes over-rode the settings and the behaviour was quite different depending on what browser you used.

The SCORM player window now tries to use the maximum space available by the theme - if the theme limits it then unfortunately there's not much we can do about it.

Some of the Core Moodle 2.0 themes have a bug affecting the size of the SCORM player window - check out MDL-24738 for progress on this.

You may also find this discussion about the changes to the Moodle 2.0 SCORM player useful:
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=152895

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by c p -

The loss of stage size is a blow. From a purely selfish point of view it worked well for me and the maximum size now is just too small. Pop-ups are a pain as it puts one more barrier in the way of students who may genuinely not know how to allow pop-ups if they have to go to a menu option (Safari) and may be working on a shared machine when there are legitimate reasons for having pop-ups turned off. Any teacher who is capable of setting up a moodle course should know how to allow pop-ups but all products should be written for the end user and in this case the real end user is the student. As a compromise my request would be:

If the new window option has been selected then the there should be an option of not displaying the Scorm Player at all (I suppose this has to be optional as if there is more than one learning object it may be necessary to access the menu / structure?) and instead there should simply be a page saying that "the activity should open in a new window. If pop-ups are blocked then the activity can be opened by right clicking on this link" or some similar. This would enable the student to progress without changing their browser's settings.

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Dan Marsden -
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problem is that allowing users to manually trigger the opening of a new window can break JS communication in the browser - meaning the pop-up window will load but no grade/completion information about the SCORM is passed back to Moodle. Most modern browsers notify the user that a pop-up has been blocked and give the option to enable pop-ups for this site or easy change of configuration.

We used to have a "click here to open the window" link in the message, but it has been removed as it caused more problems when grades weren't saved. The inconvenience to the user of needing to modify their configuration is outweighed by the necessity for reliable reporting of completion/grade data.

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by c p -

Agreed the priority has to be the communication of the data. However, I am acutely aware that I am often dealing with students who have limited confidence with computers and any extra hurdle should be avoided if possible.

How about offering the option of opening up the activity in a 'clean' window, i.e. completely blank and no theme and with perhaps just a 'return to course link'?

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Dan Marsden -
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anything is possible - especially if you're willing to pay someone to do the work.... smile

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Jay Knight -

"The SCORM player window now tries to use the maximum space available by the theme - if the theme limits it then unfortunately there's not much we can do about it."

I control our own custom theme.  What do I need to set to make the "maximum available space" larger?

I've set

#region-main .region-content {height: 800px;}

and that makes that div larger, but there still a div (first child of #scorm_layout) that is being set to 600px (and several descendents of that have inline styles of hard px heights), not allowing it to grow.  How can I make it larger?

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Sytske van Hasselt -

Yes, that's what i'm looking for too! smile

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Joe Deegan -

Would love to hear if anybody has found a solution to this problem? I'm finding that the maximum allowable space is limiting in many themes.  I love many of the improvements in 2.0 but this is looking like a deal breaker for sites that mainly host scorm content.

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Re: Where did "Stage Size" go for SCORM

by Joe Deegan -

I actually found a solution to what's not really a problem.  I did not understand how the visibility settings of the "Navigation" and "Settings" blocks worked and did not realize you could remove them to allow more space.  Now that I set those blocks to not appear on every page I have much more space.