Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Thomas Robb -
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I've been experimenting with the quiz module for Moodle 2.0 and have found, to my dismay, that it is currently only possible to save the grade point value for individual question items one by one. I normally create quizzes with 10 items, of which 6 are worth 2 points and the rest worth 1 point, thus I currently will have to click 6 save buttons and wait for the screen to redraw between them! sad

There is a report on this in the Tracker MDL-17453 but it is labeled as an "Improvement" rather than a "Bug" and I'm afraid that it will simply get back-burnered and not be implemented in the first release of 2.0.

Is there anyone else, like me, who feels this feature is essential?
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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Tim Hunt -
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Thanks for the feedback. Noted.

However, I only have a certain amount of time to fix Moodle 2.0 bugs over the next month or so, and I can't promise it will be done before the release. I can promise that the number of people who vote for it will be noted.
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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Tetsuo Kimura -
I can't believe it!surprise I suppose many teachers, especially language teachers, do NOT want to upgrade their Moodle to 2.0 only for this reason. I hope it will be fixed before the 2.0 release.
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by James Scully -
Please ensure this feature is possible, I use it regularly. Definitely essential.

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by Michael Koops -
- agree 100 %!

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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Tim Hunt -
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Oh dear. Looks like I need to find a way, and time, to implement this.
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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Don Hinkelman -
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"Save All" functionality of grade point values has been one of those aspects of the Quiz Module 1.9 that I use every day. I can't imagine suddenly having to save individual point values. Not only would it be an irritant, but it would add a tiresome string of clicks needed to set up any of my quizzes. My initial feeling would be "downgrading" to 2.0.

Thanks Tom for noting this significant operational change and thanks Tim for your kind attention to this matter.
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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Tim Hunt -
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You can tell from the issue number that we have been aware of this for a long time. We just were not aware of how vehement people would be about losing this feature.

The difficulty is how to implement it in the UI.

Because there are 'add questions here' buttons within the quiz layout, and each of those has their own HTML form, we can no longer wrap a HTML form around the whole thing, and so there is no easy way to get all the grades submitted at once.

I suppose the options are:

1. Implement this functionality, but only on the order and paging tab. (That is technically easy, but there is an issue with how much horizontal space there is on that page.)

2. Implement this using JavaScript, which is not so hard, but then it would only work with JavaScript on (not such a big deal these days.)

3. Change it, so that all the separate add question buttons and grade boxes are in one big form. This is probably techically the best solution, but would require a certain amount of re-work of the HTML for the page and the form processing code.

In anyone has any thoughts, please suggest them here. I'll deal with this when I get back from holiday.
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by hon wai lau -
Option 2 is a good choice, because it can be worked out quickly. There are other major bugs that should be fixed at this time. It is actually an enhancement of the existing functionality. If they don't have the javascript enable browser, either install another one or find another computer. If both fail, they can still use it.

Using javascript is transparent to user, when you change UI later, they don't even notice any change. Using javascript can delay the implementation of option 3, which may possibly incorporate other change and implement at once.
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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Tim Hunt -
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I think I agree with you.

At some point, it would be really nice to implement things link drag and drop to rearrange the questions.
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by Joseph Rézeau -
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Tim "At some point, it would be really nice to implement things link drag and drop to rearrange the questions."

oh yes, it would!wink

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Re: Saving all grades when editing a quiz in 2.0 - Now not possible"

by Peter Ruthven-Stuart -
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Hello Tom,

Thanks for bringing my attention to this issue.

I second everyone who would like to see the functionality of the 'save all grade point values' for questions exist in version 2. The removal of a time-saving feature is tantamount to introducing a 'bug'. Let's hope this can be fixed in time for the release of version 2.