Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Tim Hunt -
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... I thought to myself, I could design a better interface than that, so I thought I would try.

What do people think of something like this:

Mockup 1
Note that, where you have a choice of essay questions being selected randomly, like question 2 in the example, the different random variants are shown separately.

The (grade) in brackets is a link that takes you to a page like:

Mockup 2
Note that on the front screen, there is an option to also show the questions that Moodle graded automatically. That is useful if case you want to manually change lots of the automatically awarded grades. Turning that on changes the table to look like

Mockup 3
What do people think of this? I would particularly like to hear from people who use the existing interface a lot. Thanks. (Note to self: MDL-21765.)
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by koen roggemans -
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Hi Tim,

I use the interface quite often.

This looks nice to me.

I don't understand the 'In progress' collumn

I hope you keep the possibility of grading a lot of students with the same question on one page.

Personally, I have never changed the automatically graded grades yet. Why would anyone want to do that? For short answer questions, I sometimes had to add more possibilities and then regrade everything (automatically).

It would be nice if the grade was saved in an ajaxy way, the way forum ratings work now (grades saved as soon as you change them). I don't know if the same is possible for the comments too (if the focus is away from the form, save the content of the form).

Thank you for your ongoing thoughts about improving the quiz module Tim. Much appreciated - we have some addicted teachers here (+25000 questions in our question bank)
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Tim Hunt -
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The In progress column shows you how many attempts are currently in progress. I am not sure if it is useful or not. It just naturally comes out of thinking about what state a question might be in. I was not sure if it was useful to include it. It might be useful to the teacher to know that there will be even more attempts to mark soon, but I am not sure.

Yes, you will be able to choose how many questions to mark at a time. The advantage of a small number like 5 is that it means everything is saved frequently, so you won't lose things if there is a crash. If you have set it to only show questions that need grading, then each time you click save you will get five new questions to grade, so the workflow should be quite smooth.

Ajax saving would be nice, but will have to wait for later. Getting the question engine rewrite finished is the priority.
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Paula Clough -

Tim,

Yes! Please.

Please do include the automatically graded questions...everyone once in a while I discover a question that the majority of my students misunderstood and I want to give them the points because from their point of view it was correct.

cool

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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Tim Hunt -
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Well, I needed to get on, so I went ahead and implemented most of the above, even though there had not been much feedback.

It changed a bit as I was implementing it, but basically everything above is done.
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Elena Ivanova -
Looks nice smile
Tim, is it just a mockup, or you did the code already?
Will it possible to get a checkbox "Show students with no attempts"? when you are on the "grade a question" screen?
Please see note in MDL-20329 for possible scenario.
p.s. automatically graded questions should definitely be included there.
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Tim Hunt -
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Code is done. Screen-shot below. (Note that an essay where the student did not submit an answer is automatically put in the 'Not answered' state, and is not considered to need grading by the teacher.


You can't manually grade an attempt that does not exist. There is nowhere to store the grades.

Probably, what we need, is the option to create an attempt for a student who did not submit one, with every question in the 'Not answered' state. And that is related to the "we need a way to submit the attempts of students who started one, but forgot to click submit all and finish" thing. (MDL-3030 and linked issues.)

That is not going to happen any time soon, I am afraid.
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Elena Ivanova -
oh, perfect smile

Yep, that what I guess we wanted: have an "empty" attempt with "non-answered" state per question, that one can override (like in Assignment). Thank you for a confirmation, so I can get this back to the faculty!


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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by koen roggemans -
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Hi Tim,
I seem a little late for adding a comment here, but at the moment I'm using the 1.9 interface and find myself missing a wordcount when reviewing. I expect my students to give an answer in a certain number of words. In the online assignment they can check that in their editor and I can see it when marking. So my students and I are used to work that way in class. It would be nice if that was possible during tests too for consistency.

I know this is a very personal and rather late request, so if you can put it in fine. If not, also fine of course smile.
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by Tim Hunt -
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That is more an essay question feature request (which I think is already in the tracker) rather than something that needs to be built into the manual grading interface.
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Re: Thinking about the manual grading interface ...

by koen roggemans -
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Sorry about that, should have searched first. I found issue MDL-19655 for everyone who feels like voting for it after reading this wink