Visvanath Ratnaweera

Here is a new trick:

I just wrote a post, submitted, after first rebuked by the missing confirmation as human. Then did an edit, re-submitted, this time pressing enter on the subject line. Then I got this:

 

Trick question: Have I committed the edit too?

 

Answer: No!

 

Scroll down to the bottom to see:

 

 

Ref. https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=473661&parent=1897970

 

Edit: The same happened here, to this post, resp. to an edit:

 

Big surprise! (for me at least) If I understood your observation correctly, the actual (hidden?) completion of the quiz has a connection to the setting "When time expires". A value "Attempts must be submitted before time expires, or they are not counted" interferes with the result.

 

I would understand it, if the dummy student has not submitted within the time limit. But he has as can be seen in his attempt:

 

I don't see why the student need to be bothered with all the details you explained, if he does his job as advised by the teacher, both the student and the teacher expect him to be able to move forward, i.e. take the dependent quiz. Could you, or anybody else reading this, why Moodle shouldn't?

 

OK, you said, "This is quite clearly a bug." What is it exactly? Let me put what I believe to be happening on paper, please correct me if I'm wrong or add any information that is missing.

 

How to reproduce in Moodle 4.5.latest?:

- Create a quiz, say Quiz 1, with more than one questions consisting only of machine-graded question types  (no essay type, for example). Each question giving a maximum mark of 1 and the quiz to give a maximum grade 1.

 

-  Set a (non-zero) time limit and set "When time expires" to "Attempts must be submitted before time expires, or they are not counted".

 

- Under Grade allow multiple attempts, Grading method to "Last attempt", and Grade to pass to 1.

 

- Create another quiz, say Quiz 2, restricting its access to Quiz 1 "must be marked complete"

 

- Take the quiz as a student. Stay within the time limit and submit the quiz properly (Finish attempt.. > Submit all and finish > Submit all and finish).

 

IMPORTANT: Answer at least one question wrongly.

 

- The following preview page should show show the wrongly answered questions marked 0.00 out of 1.00 and as a result the total Marks less than 1.

 

 

Observed result: The student can't take Quiz 2 it shows, "Not available unless: The activity Test quiz 1 is marked complete".

I knew, you'll take it!

See messages.

Dominique, not so fast!

moodle.org went south as I was editing, at least my browser brought me a "This site is not available" (paraphrased) in a font and style which looked like the page came from moodle.org. It even took an edit with it.

Since you can't reproduce the issue on your sites, I'd be glad to give you a teacher account and the dummy user account on the very course that broke and where I have created the test quizzes too. Just message me. Honestly, you may stick to your decision to quit this (rather time wasting) issue. I understand you very well.

 

I'm very sorry, if I sounded cynical - it may be true, you know that switching to cynicism a safety mechanism, when you see South too long?

Now we know where the addiction comes from:

Meta and YouTube Found Negligent in Landmark Social Media Addiction Case
https://meta.slashdot.org/story/26/03/25/1745232/meta-and-youtube-found-negligent-in-landmark-social-media-addiction-case