Moodle Terror

Moodle Terror

Steve Eskow -
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I have heard marvelous tributes to Moodle. I want very much to learn it, master it, and use it in my consulting work in Africa.

I have been trying to find my way in to understanding how Moodle works for one hour, moving from screen to screen, and getting more and more confused. And. frankly, terrified!

I have the earlier edition of Jason Cole's book USING MOODLE, and can find no screen that looks like his "Moodle University" screen on page 8.

The demonstration course I can't seem to make show me very much.

I enter "teacher" and "demo" but don't seem to get much of a feel for what a teacher experiences, or needs to do.

Am I beyond help?

My email address is

drseskow@cox.net

(My Ph.D. makes me feel like a pretentious fraud! All that education and I can't master a social constructivist tool.)

Help!

Steve Eskow

回复Steve Eskow

Re: Moodle Terror

Frances Bell -
Hi Steve,
I can understand your confusion - the Moodle site has become like a huge bazaar or festival where one can easily become lost among the rich wares on show.
There is a features demo site to explore http://moodle.org/course/view.php?id=34
that also links to a Moodle demonstration site.
I suggest that you explore these and come back to the Social Lounge (or particular forums if you feel brave enough to explore Using Moodle).Please explore and return.
Frances
回复Frances Bell

Re: Moodle Terror

Brian Mulligan -
Steve,

http://docs.moodle.org is a wikepedia like site set up to make sure that Moodle documentation is always up to date. The documents tend to be a bit like a technician's manual, rather than a tutorial (ie. they tend to give a complete description of each function in the order they appear on the site, rather than guiding you through exercises that would help you learn), but they are useful. I had started to try to put up my tutorials on this site but in the pressure of work I have abandoned it for the moment (you can find a little at: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Introductory_Tutorials_for_Teachers)

I would not particularly recommend this, but if there is not something better available on docs.moodle.org others might like to help improve it. Maybe your posting will act as a motivation to get me started on this again.

Regards,

Brian

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回复Steve Eskow

Re: Moodle Bazaar

Don Hinkelman -
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Hi Steve,

I worked for several years as a teacher-trainer in East Africa. I am excited to hear you may be applying moodle platform for learning programs in that continent. Tell us more about your plans.

I have also led a number of workshops for beginners in using moodle. I agree with Frances that Moodle is a lovely bazaar with so much to choose from, it often becomes overwhelming. I suggest that you learn just two things to start...
  1. Forums
  2. Resources
You can teach everything possible with just these two tools. The other tools can help later. Use forums for discussion--ask a question in the first post. And use resources to post handouts, content or instructions. Teachers generally make their course content on a wordprocessing document such as Open Office or Word/Powerpoint. These can be posted using the Resource menu >> Upload a file or weblink. Once you make a whole course and try it using these two tools, then go on to other ones.

Cheers, 微笑
Don
回复Don Hinkelman

Re: Moodle Bazaar

Don Hinkelman -
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In your private mail, you asked...
On the matter of starting with forums and resources: what’s the exact beginning point? Don’t I need to get the basic software and send distant students a course outline, etc?

Perhaps I should make clear that we’re not thinking of using Moodle as an enhancement of an existing campus program, but of using a learning management system for all-distance learning.

Yes, it is important if you are using Moodle for all distance learning or blended learning (combined with face-to-face instruction). But still you just need to learn 1) forums and 2) resources.

To get started, you should set up a Moodle server or get a hosting service to run your Moodle site. Then make a course, and a course outline--I usually make each point in my course outline equal to one topic on my main course page. Then add resources and forums according to the topics in the course outline.

Once you have a course set up, then you can send login information by postal mail to your students. All they need is an internet browser. In fact they don't even need their own computer, just go to a internet shop and go to work. I imagine the hourly rates for internet in Ghana are quite reasonable. By the way, you might want to explain your school and course plans here in this social forum. Many of us will be interested.

Cheers,
Don
回复Don Hinkelman

Re: Moodle Bazaar

Frances Bell -
This is excellent advice from Don, and if you want a look at how a 'simple' Moodle might look, you are in one now - the Social Lounge. Here we have just one forum, a glossary and a poll. Imagine how you might use a similar space with a class, then download Moodle and try a bit of design. You can go over to Using Moodle to see if you can search for instructions on local installation, and come back and ask for help if you can't find what you are looking for.
回复Don Hinkelman

Re: Moodle Bazaar

Tony Hursh -
I agree with Don completely.

There are many wonderful features in Moodle, but forums and resources are the best place to start. You can do some great teaching just with those two. Forums let your students talk to each other (and to you). Resources let you link to external web sites and to your own files you've uploaded.

In fact, I'd simplify things even further and limit the resources to "compose a web page" and "link to a file or web site" at first. Those are by far the most commonly used options, in my experience.

If you want your students to upload formal products (such as Word documents), you might also want to look at "assignment" under Activities.

The great thing about Moodle is that it's possible to start out very small, with just a discussion forum or two and some links to web resources. You don't have to learn the whole system before getting started.


回复Steve Eskow

Re: Moodle Learning Curve

Manish Verma -
moodle.org is powered by a courses management system (Moodle itself) and not by a contents management system and that may lead to some confusion. I often wondered earlier why I should be enroled in a course ("Using Moodle" for example is a course) to participate in forums. While I understand that using something is the best way of knowing something, this may confuse a newcomer. The amount of contents in moodle.org may also add to confusion to a newcomer (it is an ocean).

Perhaps, demo.moodle.org is where one needs to go first. Moodle has several features and one needs to be mentally prepared to spend some time to understand them.
回复Steve Eskow

Re: Moodle Terror

Frances Bell -
Someone has private messaged me to suggest that there be a beginners course in how to use Moodle. It's an interesting idea and it made me think about why that sort of course is probably offered by Moodle partners as paid for training. Because much of the rich, learning activities that people create with Moodle's help are social and constructivist (or constructionist 眨眼 ), they do involve significant amounts of time from a facilitator/teacher. There are lots of volunteers here willing to answer questions and help each other. I wonder if there would be an interest in setting up and running beginners Moodle course for those who (for good reason) did not have access to Moodle partner training.
Something to think about anyway.
回复Frances Bell

Re: Moodle Terror

D.I. von Briesen -

Hey- I've done this about 20 times in the last couple of years at conferences - often just an hour or hour and a half, but also two back to back sessions (for 3 hours total).

It's a great idea- but my experience suggests folks just don't take it as seriously if it's not formal, paid, at their school- though I'm sure there are exceptions!

d.i.

回复Frances Bell

Re: Moodle Terror

Michael Penney -
We run online, moderated, Moodle courses every two weeks if the problem you mention is one of time or distance.

Jason's new book, Using Moodle 2nd (updated for 1.8) is also quite good, a number of folks I know use it while learning Moodle.

回复Frances Bell

Re: Moodle Terror

Lesli Smith -
Keeping in line with our original intent to provide quality resources to teachers at little or no cost, we at facultyroom.org are in the middle of trying to figure out how to post some of our learning objects for others (that's the sample course and database project that we've been discussing). There are several considerations to take into account before launching such an effort, though, and you and Bill Fitzgerald have kindly pointed me in the direction of the open licensing documentation, etc. In addition to making sure that intellectual property issues are considered, there are several logistical hurdles that I could also use help overcoming. All of us know how HUGE a job it is to keep the docs current, and we have a dedicated team here at Moodle.org on top of that job. Now, imagine trying to ensure that short tutorials and other such resources are constantly up to date in a free and open environment such as you are suggesting (and we have already been thinking about). Things are moving so fast right now that we can barely keep on top of ensuring that our closed courses include data for 1.6, 1.8, and 1.9--and that's for content we've created ourselves. In truth, the prospect of figuring out how to also manage and oversee an open database of such content is a bit overwhelming to me at the moment and is the hurdle I'm most eager to clear.

As those of us who have done the training know, though, there sometimes is NO substitute for having a real person coaching you through it, whether online or in person. Still, every time a question comes up about groups or roles or other more complicated, need-to-see-it-in-action functions, I think to myself, wouldn't it be nice to direct that person to a course that would show it working--something more in-depth than an empty demo course? I'm in the middle of stripping down one of my own courses and setting something up at facultyroom.org to serve as a model for where we want to go. I'll need plenty of feedback once it's ready, but it isn't quite ready for the public, yet.

In any case--just wanted to let you all know what is in the works. 微笑
回复Lesli Smith

Re: Moodle Terror

Bryan Williams -
Lesli,

If you don't know about Alfresco you might want to take a look. Alfresco is OS and will provide you with a fairly robust solution as a learning object repository. At present Remote-Learner.net (Moodle partner) has integrated Alfresco at a level where teacher can make calls from within their Moodle course to stored Alfresco resources. In the near future teacher will be able to store materials into Alfresco from Moodle, and students will have access to home directories within Alfresco. You can view the initial level of integration with Alfresco here.
回复Bryan Williams

Re: Moodle Terror

Michael Penney -

Hi Bryan, does Alfresco enable drag and drop of files into Moodle?

I'd love to view the demo, but it's asking for a password?

BTW, we're doing something very like a repo all in Moodle, demo at the Bay Area moot.

回复Bryan Williams

Re: Moodle repository software

Lesli Smith -
Thanks, Bryan! I'll admittedly have to leave evaluation of Alfresco up to Michael, though, as I am more involved with the end-user part--as in, what to do with content and users once the right products are chosen. Very generous of you to share, though, and it is much appreciated. 微笑
回复Steve Eskow

Re: Moodle Terror

Chris Collman -
Hi Steve,
For someone without any current online experience, there are entirely too many options! I can relate. Others in this thread have made some good suggestions.

Like any piece of software, having your objectives set out clearly, will help determine which features you might use. "Is the tail wagging the dog?" . Fall back on your training and experience in other areas to map out the situtation big grin . It is not about Moodle.

There is no "one way". For example, we use Lessons and Quizzes and Certificates (a 3rd party contributed module) and our short courses are open 365 days a year. How about this culture shocker, "we don't wag our tongues in Moodle" for some very good reasons (liability and qualified resources). We save our interactive communication for face to face courses of instruction.

You didn't mention your area of consulting. Are you training the trainer on how to build a village well and water pump, or starting a virtual class for secondary school students on advanced Biology topics.

I am a former Peace Corp Volunteer (Ag/RD Nigeria and Somalia cira 1965-68). Back in my day , we had to book telephone calls. Justing thinking about how I would approach the idea of using Moodle in my old work context, gets me all excited again.

Thanks for the post and I wish you success! Chris