MOODLE FOR BUSINESS

MOODLE FOR BUSINESS

Marc G發表於
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I'm proposing a forum geared towards "Moodle For Business". A Forum for discussions on the business usage of moodle, to possibly include discussions on certifications, payment capabilities with moodle, Moodle for training (like CBT's) by using the Lesson Module, course formats best used (social or topic), best practices, experiences, moodle consultants, advice, and knowledge sharing geared towards the application of moodle for business purposes, not so much academia.

Myself and other Moodlers have had offline discussions on Moodle for various business scenarios. I feel that a forum would help keep a repository for all to share, and to extend the application of moodle from just "distance learning" in academia.

Thanks,
Marc

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Re: MOODLE FOR BUSINESS

David Delgado發表於
I do agree. One important thing is to start developing business models for Open Source software, such as Moodle. Very interesting question to talk about, and lots of things to be discussed. 微笑
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W Page發表於
Hi Marc,

Take a walk on the wildside at,
MOODLE - Standard Slide Presentation - for Promotion
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=1745

This forum is trying to address the promotion of MOODLE to include help with presentations for Moodlers (academic & business) along with the creation of subject "cartriges". Probably business type interest "cartriges" would also be useful.

It does not, that is it does not yet, deal with certifications, payment capabilities but you might get some info that might be helpful in the development of a MOODLE Business Forum if you visit there.

You sound like you would have a lot to offer there.

Check it out.

WP1
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Ralf Hilgenstock發表於
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I agree Marc,

We discussed the same topic in the german language forum two weeks ago.

Hi Martin, can you add such a forum. Thanks

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Chris Luther發表於

Hello, I thought I would introduce myself to the group.  I'm an instructional designer / technology trainer at a growing enterprise software company.  Over the past four years I've been primarily responsible for developing highly-technical training on Motives products for our customers and deployment consultants.  In the past this has largely been ILT (instructor-led training) held at our campus in Austin, Texas or at customer sites around the world (USA, Canada, Europe and Australia).  Two years ago we began producing asynchronous self-paced web-delivered courses to deliver content to certain audiences.  I also began lobbying for a deployment system (LMS) to better manage and report on both our web-based and bricks and mortar training.  We went through an elaborate evaluation process of commercial LMSs and finally secured a budget even though I had a lot of trouble adequately justifying a six figure project (license and services) based upon our current or projected training volume.  Because of this, when push came to shove, the project was delayed and then canceled because other projects with better demonstrable return won the day.

Facing the business reality I then began to look at other options - including available open-source platforms. We did an evaluation of eight competing platforms and, in consultation with our IT department, recently settled on Moodle.  While it is not a perfect platform, the consensus was that it met most of our needs and had the best support (in terms of product design, commercial support, documentation and community).

We have been using a Moodle prototype for both training delivery and rapid content creation since November of last year.  In the second quarter of this year we will expand the use and support of this platform for training internal audiences.  We will use this proof-of-concept to capture performance metrics and develop ROI that will justify a greater training infrastructure investment in the future (see graphic).  In the meantime we will attempt to expand the capabilities of the Moodle platform to see if we can fill in some of the product gaps.

That's enough for an introduction on who I am and what my company is doing with Moodle.  I am interested in exchanging information and building a community with other users who are using the Moodle platform in business. 

Regards,

Chris

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jordy koski發表於

Chris,

I am interested in speaking with you about your experience using Moodle in support of the services that Motive offers. Please contact me if you get this message.

Best,

Jordy

jordykoski "at" yahoo.com

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angel williams發表於
I'd certainly be interested.

Is there anyway to be advised when such a forum is setup?

In the meantime I have a query:

I'm proposing to setup a Moodle space for an organization that provides weekend trainings and wants to keep connected with all their alumni.

It would have just one main course (a followup to the training weekend) with many groups setup for each "class". So the content is singular and shared.

I'd also like to create a way for all the alumni to then cross-connect, so that there's a small group that each person trained with, perhaps larger regional groupings for further get-togethers, and one big group area for all alumni.


Anyone have suggestions, ideas (in general) and for pricing and/each of the following?:

-setting up moodle (install, theme adjustment, initial course setup -- 6 weeks of basic followup material: surveys, resources, etc)

- one-time staff training on moodle use

- possible ongoing hosting of entire moodle setup (includng SQL)

- periodic group setup (approx every 3 weeks) to assist with uploading pictures, orientation, etc

- ongoing general tech follow-up/support


Thanks for any input.

Cheers, angel
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Marc G發表於

Angel,

If I understand you correctly here are my thoughts:

-setting up moodle (install, theme adjustment, initial course setup -- 6 weeks of basic followup material: surveys, resources, etc)
Martin, the creator of moodle, has established Moodle.com.  Moodle.com, for a payment, provides setup and hosting your moodle site for you on their servers.  Moodle setup is not complicated, but if you feel getting hosting and setup support is needed, this may be a good route. 

I'd suggest that if you have servers or hosting company in mind, ask a friend who's "web-handy" for setup. To adjust the theme, add courses, etc.,  you would login as admin and go from there.  Moodle administration is as easy as point your mouse and click.  If you know how to navigate a web page, tailoring Moodle after setup will be easy.

- one-time staff training on moodle use
  This would be a seperate "course", I'd say, using the TOPIC format.  When you create a course after Setup, you select and input criteria on that course.  You'll be logged in as "Administrator.  There are 3 course formats.  TOPIC format means the course is not structured in weeks (like a school semester) rather you list topics that "students" would go through.   Just have enough content that can be completed in a one-time sitting as you describe.   

- possible ongoing hosting of entire moodle setup (includng SQL)
Possible hosting companies for Moodle, besides Moodle.com, would include companies offering monthly packages that support PHP and MySQL databases.  Hostway.com is who I use, but there are many out there.  PHP is the scripting language used by Moodle, MySQL is the "preferred" database to use as the back-end for Moodle.  Martin says in the documentation that many hosting companies may do the set-upof the Moodle software for you.  Doesn't hurt to ask them.  A good hosting package I'd say is about $15-$20 per month.  There are many companies charging even less.

- periodic group setup (approx every 3 weeks) to assist with uploading pictures, orientation, etc
When you say groups, I'm assuming you mean groups of people.  If I'm a new student, to upload an image and add my information takes just a few seconds. 

--You would need to ensure that people "disenroll" themselves when they complete the 3 week course. Or you can log in as admin and remove them yourself, easy as point and click 

--Then, immedietly, you would want them to enroll in another course, called "Alumni" lets say, which will allow you to have forums, resources like word docs, pdf's, news information etc. for your graduates.  You would not disenroll them the course alumni.  This idea helps to create an area (course) for alumni.  Its not a real "course" where your teaching...but a course in terms of Moodle.

Everything makes more sense when you get Moodle running and simply play with it..  You can't see how to set up a course and add features until you log in as "Admin" after installing! 

Viewing Moodle from the "Admin" perspective will give you a better understanding.  When your on Moodle.org logged in as a user, your viewing the "user" features of Moodle.  However Moodle looks very different when logged in as admin!

I hope this helps,

Marc

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Re: MOODLE FOR BUSINESS

Chardelle Busch發表於
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Hello,

You might have a look at my Getting Started course at www.lifeworkouts.com (click on the coaching center link to get to moodle)--you can login as a guest.  As of right now the "lessons" are rudimentary-- I am in the process of re-doing them in flash, but this might give you and idea of how to "train" both users and administrators.

Chardelle

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Ray Lawrence發表於

Chardelle,

How did you get the flash movie into the right panel of  the front page of your site? I'd given up on being able to do this - can you enlighten me?

Ray

p.s. can't code for toffee.

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Chardelle Busch發表於
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Hi Ray,

Its really very simple (I'm no coder either).  On the moodle main page, click on configuration, then on site settings.  In the text editor, toggle to html source, then enter the html for the flash movie (I inserted the movie into a page in Dreamweaver, then just copied and pasted the html)  FYI below is my html.  It is important in moodle that you have a / before the folder where you store your images, movies, etc.  So, I upload the movie into my "assets" folder on my site server and there it is!

<p align="center"><object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,29,0" height="86" width="177" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"><param value="/assets/tag.swf" name="movie" /><param value="high" name="quality" /></object></p>

Good luck,

Chardelle

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angel williams發表於
Thank you, Chardelle...

Very good suggestions and learnings there. I'd used the "How to Use Moodle" course thats available in Moodle Exchange. Its detailed AND its really designed for administrators of Moodle, rather than users.

A special interest for me is the fact that my moodle spaces will *not* be used for traditional education, rather for business, coaching, etc, so I'd like to see/create a "How to Use" that has more flexible language.

If you ever consider offering your course to the Moodle Exchange (of course removing what you feel is truly proprietary) please do let me know.

angel

ps, nice moodle makeover!
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angel williams發表於

sorry Marc,

apparently I wasn't being clear in my communication...

what I was hoping for is suggestions for what fee to charge for my doing these things (all of which I have the skill to do AND i'm grateful for tips and techniques about doing it all better.

I'd like to propose a rate (flat fee or hourly?, etc) for these things as a whole package and potentially a la carte.


ALOS how are folks handling payment options being *built-in* to Moodle?

thansk for your input.

angel
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Bryan Williams發表於

Angel,

We are veering off-topic here with the specific (to your) business talk I believe.  There are price fixing laws in the US you should be aware of, and this line of discussion is walking the edge.  Please consider taking things private with e-mail for further comments.  There are places on the web where you can learn what professional services typically fetch, do a search.

Bryan 

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Bryan Williams發表於

Moodler's!

If Martin does not object, I will create a new "Topic" for business trainers and organizations within the Moodle Documentation Project area.  I am one of the documenation managers, and working on creating presentations and other helpful materials to promote Moodle.  I would be very pleased to see more business users get involved, and have a place where we can steer this population when  they first visit Moodle.org.  You folks are also the ones needed to help out with the creation of new "How To" presentation modules and other professional looking materials needed.  Let's make this a snazzy experience for the business decision maker.

Bryan 

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W Page發表於
Hi Bryan,

As you can see from my post above, I tried to get some business folks over to the "Presentation" Forum some time back.  I hope they take up your invitation.  We could really use their input.

WP1
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Bryan Williams發表於

WP1,

Few takers beyond the core group (Floyd, Michelle, Ray L., Lars and D.I.) showed up.  I'm sure Martin will want to see a little more participation on the part of the business types, before committing to say a new course area.

Bryan

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W Page發表於
True Bryant,

But this appears to be a robust group with positive energy that is pent up.

If they are given a Business Forum like the MyDMS Forum or a Course like the Doc Project, Exchange and Language Teaching, or even a Category like English Language, Other Language and Demo Courses; it appears they will take "Business" Forum or Course or Category and fly with it.

Although most of the folks using Moodle seem to be primarily Educators there is a Business contingent of people who also use it. That only demonstrates the power, applicability, and universitality of the software. Obviously these people definately want to use this software for business. They see the promise in it for this use but they feel the need for a separate special place to discuss issues relating just to the business application of Moodle.

Maybe if a separate area for Business based Moodles existed it would be used by more people.

I hope Martin responds positively to their requests.

I also believe that the Promotional Materials, Presentations etc for Moodle need to be primarily addressed in one location so people know where to go to get help with their Moodle presentation, can find "Plug and Play" type presentations, etc.

Well I think I have said enough for now. What do the rest of the folk think?

WP1
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Marc G發表於

Bryan,

I'd personally be happy to assist with the business trainers and organizations in the Moodle Documentation Project area.   In business, I have seen examples of a (1) "trainer" in a company/organization using moodle as a teaching resource.  Or I've seen (2) small business owners, using Moodle in an entreprenuerial sense, to conduct courses for a particular "trade" online.  Where the company is the particular Moodle Site!

I would still like to see a unique Business Forum

I wrote to Martin personally asking him for this.  I'm sure myself and other "business" folks would be happy to contribute to your project in the Moodle Documentation Project.  First, I'd say let's get open dialogue on business usage of moodle going...scenarios, experiences, etc.  After getting the discussions out on the table, you can take from the discussion, or even ask more questions of the participants to develop "case studies" for your presentations and helpful materials.

I agree w/ you and W Page.   Basically, lets get business scenarios out on the table...then for the Moodle Documentation Project, extract best practices, ideas, experiences, case studies, etc from the discussion.  I'd like to see discussions first on a dedicated Business Forum.

Marc

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John McDermott發表於
Count me in, too.

BTW, is there a good list on this site (or somewhere else) of WSPs providing Moodle as part of the package? Ideally comments about experiences with those providers would be nice, too.

--john
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Ray Lawrence發表於

My initial reaction to the call for a "Moodle for business" forum was that this would be a good idea, as this is the main focus of my interest in Moodle too.

On reflection I think, there are a few things to consider before we leap in that direction (assuming that Martin were to agree to it).

Unless my impressions are totally wrong there is only going to be one Moodle and that single Moodle will have to satisfy all user's needs as best it can. I've paused whilst typing this to recall as many of the features of Moodle that I can and I have to say that I can't think of one of the current or proposed features which would not have a potential benefit in business (i.e. training) scenarios that I have encountered.

If this functionality has been created by academics for non business applications then I say "Hooray" for the academics. However, I don't believe the route to where Moodle is today is quite as black and white as that. In the months I've been lurking in these forums I've seen many ideas floated, developed, scaled back, prioritised and refined by a wide variety of members of the community with quite different needs, wants and talents - even within the academic world. So, going forward, I feel there should be an air of caution about creating two distinct branches of this community and that it would to the benefit of all to keep the full focus of the oustanding talents among our number on a single Moodle core.

There is always scope for specific add on modules to be developed for needs which only exist for a specific group.

Kicking my soapbox aside for a moment, I think there could be benefit in a "Moodle Business Stories" forum which would be limited to..er. business stories about Moodle. Although once more I have to declare that I have learned a lot from the stories of those engaging with Moodle in educational establishments.

As far as documentation is concerned, again,  I feel the needs of both (all?) Moodle communities are largely the same - especially at the level of  How-Tos. More adventurous tutorials can be made generic with some thought beforehand (see the Open Office site) and IMHO would benefit from the input of the community as a whole.

As far as promotional documentation is concerned e.g. presentations etc. then I can see that the focus would need to be varied. However, with careful planning and collaboration I would expect that between us we could create a common presentation which would only need some of the terminolgy changing to set it in the appropriate context.

I don't have the benefit of the long term vision for Moodle, but from where I'm standing I can't see a fork in the road yet. (wide eyes How corny was that last bit?).

Ray

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Marc G發表於

I agree Ray,

Its important to bring to light different usages of Moodle, and not to "pollute" its orignal purpose in academia.  I'm a firm believer of Computer-Mediated Communication and discussion forums and its role in academia, as this was part of my Master's thesis found at:  http://ai.bpa.arizona.edu/go/people/mgrayson .

Simply a Business Forum can bring light to how Moodle can be used in different scenarios like business.  Professionalism in the discussion will be the key in such a forum...as with any forum.

True, there will never be a version of Moodle to meet everyone's needs.  Version 4.5 will not answer everyone's needs.  But Moodle right now has a good solid core, how its used varies amongst all of us.  Creating "communities of interest" like a Business Forum, keeps discussions relevant to that topic in its own section and is knowledge sharing amonsgt practictioners.  E.g. discussions on how to keep parents informed of their children's activity and grades on Moodle is relevent for Moodle used in an elementary school, and would not fit a business forum.  Nor would discussions on Payment options and Certifications fit a forum for Moodle in Elementary schools.  Simple "Community of Interest" Idea.

Marc

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Chardelle Busch發表於
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My thoughts,

I agree that there is quite a lot of overlap between what the "business" people want, and what the "academic" people want.  For the most part, though, it is a matter of semantics.  E.g., referring to Marc's last post: 

"E.g. discussions on how to keep parents informed of their children's activity and grades on Moodle is relevent for Moodle used in an elementary school, and would not fit a business forum." 

This topic actually has been discussed in other forums as "how to keep managers/supervisors informed of their employee's progress..." 

But, this does not preclude the idea that we need our own forum, I think it justifies it.  And, of course, we all will still be keeping an eye on the other development forums, then "translating" them for our needs.

Chardelle

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Martin Dougiamas發表於
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Ray and Chardelle, you've pinned my feelings... my thought is that we are discussing groups of PEOPLE here ... and that there is no single topic that is specific to "business". Schools and universities are businesses too, remember.

Also, I find some of the traditional stuff-information-down-the-throat training approach of corporate learning a little distasteful and not something I really want to promote. As you might imagine, I would personally rather see more collaboration and active forms of learning.

However, despite these reservations 大笑, I've created a new course called "Moodle for Business" as a blank slate for discussions of this nature. I see it as a sort of experiment for now - so please prove my reservations wrong! 微笑 If it starts mirroring the main forums too much, or discussing things that are generic then it's probably a failure.

Marc's the facilitator to start with, others can be added if necessary. Please make any suggestions for activities or more facilitators to him, within that course.
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Ray Lawrence發表於

Martin,

I'm not familiar with the expression "pinned my feelings". thoughtful I'm not sure if I've caused offence. If so, apologies.blush If not, on with the important stuff. smile

Ray

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Martin Dougiamas發表於
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No offence at all - the opposite ... I just meant that my feelings were unclear to me before about this but you helped "pin them down" and clarified them for me. 滿意

Which is more than I did for you with my odd phrasings. 大笑

"Let us never speak of this again"  - Marge Simpson
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Chardelle Busch發表於
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Hi Martin,

Thanks for this--I think you will be pleasantly surprised.  I think that most of us using Moodle in non-academic settings are using it because of its collaborative and community type features! So it really is a good thingsmile.

Chardelle

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elearning edu發表於

Dear Mr.Martin,

Thanks for your initiative.  I have enrolled for the course today. Moodle for business is a convergence of learning and employment.  I was a professor for 25 years taking care of the paraprofessional training of young working adults with a degree.  These young paraprofessionals, after one year face to face training with academics and captains of industry, with a certification from the university, were able to move on the career ladder as professionals in a chosen field as manager marketing, International Trade, Human Resource Development, production etc.,.  During my long tenure I was able to facilitate few thousand youngsters to assume professional roles in trade and industry.  During my last phase of professorship, in order to increase the sweep and scope of Business professional training, I have successfully introduced LMS based online courses for professional training.  Though the learners were overwhelmingly positive to this novel approach, conventional and conservative administration was not supportive of this venture.  However, I left the service of the university to become a free lancer, teaching the students of MBA with a complementary and supplementary moodle support.  I have taught one such course on "Data Warehousing"  using moodle as a supporting and enabling tool.  My course is still available at http://virtualteacher.org/moodle  under ITM MS-MBA course with guest access.

I am confident that the moodlers who are appreciative of the convergence of learning and working, will promote moodle as an enabling technology to promote professional and technical business development.

Dr.V.Nagarajan.

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W Page發表於
Hello All!

Glad to see your persistence won over Martin.  Not just a forum but a Course no less.  That is great.

Please take a moment and join the promotion forums at the following links.  Your input and ideas I am sure will be extremely helpful and appreciated.

Moodle Documentation Project

Standard Slide Presentations
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=1745
Other Promotional materials

http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=1768

WP1
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Chris Luther發表於

>..Also, I find some of the traditional stuff-information-down-the-throat training approach of corporate learning a little distasteful and not something I really want to promote. As you might imagine, I would personally rather see more collaboration and active forms of learning.

Now I that know your perspective I better understand your reluctance. But as an Instructional Designer I'm excited about the use of Moodle in business precisely because of its collaborative tools and active learning approach. I'm forced to agree that this in not the norm in business skills-training where death-by-PowerPoint sadly prevails.  It is a constant challenge I face in my work: executives and product managers, who have a very narrow understanding of training, predefining the training solution.

However this is a time of dynamic change in corporate education, at least in the US. I'm proud to be a part of a growing community of industry professionals who are modeling new ways for delivering skills training in business - ways that are engaging and return real value to the organization. 

In the business forum I plan to share my successes and challenges with others who are using Moodle in business.  My hope is that this will have a positive impact of both the development and adoption of the Moodle platform, and improve the quality of corporate training in general.

Chris

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Bryan Williams發表於

Well said Chris and Prof. V.  Having been involved in corporate training for the past 25 years, I have also noticed a change over the past few years in attitudes.  This change is being led by ASTD and other innovative training organizations (at least in the US) that are begining to read the research on constructivist views in all areas of science.  The term "life-long learner" is starting to be taken a little more seriously as a result of increasing tensions, which the rate of change has brought about. 

Moodle is needed as much in the workplace, as in the public classroom.  Martin's reluctance in this area is understandable, it is a universe in which he has never lived.  Yes, a school is a business, but the comparison stops at the surface level.  Perhaps the new Moodle course for business users will shed light on this aspect of human activity, and the course will be moved out of the closet and into a more prominent place at Moodle.org.  Participation in this course by Moodle business users will tell the story, and make the case. 

Bryan

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Robert Lefebvre發表於
I would like to participate. I am currently doing a demo for a company that trains and screens potential employees for companies. They operate many locations and if it comes together they'll be using a lot of sites. Since they train and screen employees for a large amount of business, they will also be demonstrating Moodle to a large number of potential Moodle business educators.

I could also use some feedback. I have a new site, www.edusite.us. It's setup to be an intro and a demo of Moodle, offering installation, training etc along the lines of this discussion. I've priced the various services separately and even have "per user" rates. I invite your comments.
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Marc G發表於

MOODLE FOR BUSINESS is open.

Please review course structure and layout.  Provide feedback on the How Should this Course Be Structured Forum

Many thanks Martin.

Marc

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Martin Dougiamas發表於
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I have closed this course temporarily before too many people get the wrong idea ... this was supposed to be about the practicalities of using Moodle in business (as opposed to academic settings), not about making a business out of Moodle (that's what moodle.com and the new Partnership scheme is all about).
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Colin Lawson發表於

Hi, I heard Martin mention a new "Partnership Scheme" on the recent Learning Times Web Cast and he mentioned it in the parent to this message but I have not been able to find out any details ( I have searched the forums).  Can anyone help.

Thanks,

Colin Lawson   (www.ecourses.org.uk)

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Mark Burnet發表於
I had assumed that this referred to a yet to be announced (designed..) moodle.com franchise/partnership arrangement.  If this discussion is going on outside the .org site, I would be interested in knowing about it (where and when) as well. There are many legal details in making these arrangements, I would imagine.
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Bryan Williams發表於

Colin,

Martin has been in the process for some time now in developing a distributor/partnership plan for those interested in connecting with Moodle.com hosting and technical support, within their own business structure.  There are mountains of legal paperwork and other matters he has to sort through so things are done right.  On top of this he and the Mrs. are expecting a new baby at any minute, AND, we have seen an incremental release of Moodle in the past weeks. We need to be patient while he gets this all together, he will certainly announce the master plan as soon as it's available.

Bryan  

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Bryan Williams發表於

Marc,

I would like to suggest a format for the Moodle business course area more in line with the overall purposes of Moodle.org, and one which Martin may look more favorably upon. The strength of Moodle.org is that it is an information conduit for people at many levels of pedagogical support (i.e., teachers, trainers, support technicians etc.) who look for solutions to a variety of problems, and to find novel ideas on how a certain feature can be used. 

People are drawn to Moodle for many reasons, but as they learn how and why this program was designed they get very excited. The Moodle.org business forum should transmit and facilitate this excitement, just as it does for teachers.  A simple reading of their posts explains this excitement.  Moodle empowers a teacher in a way that speaks to the very reason for why they decided to become a teacher. 

The constructivist foundation of Moodle is oriented toward a process, more so than relative outcomes. This is a fundamental shift in thinking for a business trainer, who is almost exclusively oriented toward outcomes. Additionally, the majority of business trainers are not prepared for their pedagogical roles in the rigorous way in which a teacher is.  In many instances a trainer migrates into that role at some point during his/her career because they possess a specialized knowledge in their field.  They need the instructional guidance that both professional trainers and teachers here at Moodle.org can offer, as well as presentation help from others within their particular area of expertise. The business course area can serve this purpose.

With this said, here are my recommendations:

1. The Social format you have chosen is perfect. We should consider adding a calendar of upcoming events where regional and national conferences and tradeshows for trainers are taking place, and especially trumpet Moodle presentations.  I suspect we will soon have Calendar implementation at Moodle.org, and if Jon has his way it can be turned on and off in certain areas. 

2. We should encourage those enrolled to develop professional looking documentation for Moodle, using the short "How-To" format which Martin has recommended. These presentations could range from how to mine data at Moodle.org and connect with teachers in specific disciplines, to details on how to build a course on a certain topic.

3. Topic areas of discussion could be created for:

  • Corporate Mission
  • Engineering/Process Management
  • Sales/CRM
  • Technology
  • HR
  • Health & Safety
  • Medical/Wellness
  • Motivation 

Create a Choice activity that will help members identify what each other does.  Results can be published showing names and their choices.

4. Create a Glossary where each of us can add terms as well as tips and tricks for using Moodle.

5. Occasionally schedule Chat sessions for various types of trainers (see categories above) where you invite an expert to participate and answer questions. I may soon be in a position to offer my Elluminate room for a small number of participants, where we can invite an expert to deliver a kick-ass train the trainer, much like they do at LearningTimes, on various Moodle scenarios.

6. Create Assignment activities that lead participants to resources about online training and course development.

7. Top of the list activity should steer participants to a read of Martins paper, A journey into Constructivism.

The business plan side of Moodle can be handled in a more appropriate venue than Moodle.org.  Let's be imaginative here and see how we can create something that will empower the business trainer to use Moodle in his/her own way, and find enrichment through Moodle fellowship.

Bryan