-- Art
For those of us who never have seen an ecstasy tablet before, it doesn't remind us of drugs at all and isn't going to encourage us to take them.
I looked on Google for pictures of ecstasy tablets, and found one that looked like the Apple Computer icon. I guess that means itunes will encourage students to take ecstasy?
I feel old-school now. You can probably say I've been known to give soap bars to underage kids or something like that.
You can probably say I've been known to give soap bars to underage kids or something like that.
In my experience, underage kids (boys in particular) avoid soap like the plague. The only way you'd get one to accept a bar of soap would be at knifepoint!
Chris
If you are seriously concerned about it you can change it on your Moodle site to an image you would prefer.
Just replace the fi.png and f2.png images with images of the same size (found in "your install"/theme/"theme you use"/pix/u/).
H
If you are thinking about replacing the icon then i'd suggest something:
- fairly boring/non-identifying
- face-like, yet non-gender/race/culture specific
One I like is the flickr default buddy icon:
I feel that if you do that (like the current Moodle default does) you subtly encourage people to a) replace it with something uniquely identifying and b) use it somewhat correctly i.e. a recognisable passport-like facial portrait, while not alienating anyone. Note that even people like me (and Harry above) that use a bit of artwork, use something with a face. Even the cats/cartoon characters have generally shown their face to the camera.
As an aside, Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics has an interesting section about how the abstraction of the smiley face requires engagement by the viewer to fill in the details in a way that more realistic representations of a face don't. There's also the consideration that the shadowy, faceless silhouette that is often used in this context is fairly ominous. I think Martin mentioned that he'd intentionally avoided using such an image.
And for the record, I believe the original Moodle image is of a smiley faced cake. I find this all ironic as I (as a child of the 80s) always connected the smiley face (i.e. on its own without it being situated on a cake/tablet shaped object) first with the drug subculture of the 60s and 70s and then the Acid House scene of the late 80s (possibly just a british phenomenon) but since Wal-mart (ASDA in the UK) is currently trying to claim ownership of the symbol and every instant messenger/email client/forum in the world lets you insert such smiley faces (e.g. ) then obviously those connotations are no longer current in the mainstream population.
having just seen the flickr 'smillie' it would seem to be the poor relation of an original 'space invaders' character - as described to me by my father - or one of the original 'lsd' microdots - not that i know what one of those looks like either.
just to add a little bit of mystery to the proceedings - Ray - i'll be meeting you on Monday.
How on earth can Wal-mart copyright the smiley? They'll be wanting to copyright the sun next.
It did occur to me to wonder whether the report on the BBC website was an April 1st spoof, because the Wal-mart spokesman is John Simley. Simley - smiley - are they serious? It's real though - the report's dated May 8th. Perhaps we could make some modification to the smiley, just enough so it's out of copyright, and officially register it in the US as the Simley? Or would the Moodle 'Ecstacy' version be registerable as the Simley in its own right?
Properly handled, Wal-mart are going to make themselves look really petty and stupid over this! Oops, sorry - shouldn't have used that, it's copyrighted. Damn - wonder if that one's copyrighted as well? Oh sh**, did it again...
Chris
A coincidental discussion about default user images on other sites I found:
Face-off: The blank faces at Flickr and 43Things (and last.fm)
Some interesting thought there in the post and comments.
the default image is looks incredibly like a smiley ecstasy tablet!
And you would know this because...?
Personally I've always thought it looked like a Liquorice Allsort - you know, one of the coconut ones that get left in the bottom of the box and that leave you picking bits of coconut out of your teeth for the rest of the day!
Chris
I haven't made any effort to change it on my site as the theme usually does that for me. Also I think the reference would be lost on anybody who was not around when raves and the like were popular and that is not the age group I teach.
I think a bigger problem is it's just too bright and 'in your face' (I like the flickr approach more) but I go along with the comments stating it is easy to change globally and also encourages folk to personalise their avatar.
Darren
I think it's nice and cheerful.
However, we do give our students a time limit for changing it to something personalized (we require an actual picture of the student, though of course that may not be appropriate in all contexts).
If they don't change it before the deadline, we change it for them, generally to
-- Art
Joseph
This thread in is about meanings of cultural icons, not about general problems with Moodle. So I started one in the open social forum here: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=46140
In my post there, I included 2 links, including a "where is elmo" set of ecstasy tablet pictures.
I'm with Art, you got to love our community and the things we learn. I enjoy the discussion but can we move it? - Chris
Joseph
Lets turn this rather negative post into a fun positive one.
Everyone submit your avatar ideas below. Im sure if the powers that be prefer any of the new ideas, the smilie could be replaced.
Get your thinking caps on!
Anybody got a free (perhaps open source) favicon editor they would like to recommend? I've played (not professionally editied) around with the Moodle logos and wondered about icons editors.
Fun is always a good goal. Now to get out of town and move my daughter's "stuff" from ye old college dorm room to home. Amazing, she has already made two trips in her car and thinks she will fill up hers and mine today. Fun!
me again - try this
In actual fact the image is a smiley *cake* that I got off some recipe web site (years ago). It replaced the more common sillouhette-style image after a woman told me that it reminded her of a time in her life when she had been sexually abused by a shadowy stranger.
I was horrified, so the smiley cake was my attempt at something opposite!
In fact, I just found it again: http://familyfun.go.com/recipes/family/feature/famf39cakes/famf39cakes7.html
I'll get my coat . . .
Re: Emic description of Default image - looks like an ecstasy tablet
I been cleaning out 20 years of history and happened to rediscover Structural Anthropology and the terms "emic and etic". I always tend to lean to the emic viewpoint which your comment addresses
Chris
I mean, it could be worse. Martin could have chosen this cake instead as the avatar: