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Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 1 August 2020, 12:02 AM

Hello,

I've started work on Adaptable for Moodle 3.9, and I really need to know what 'exactly' is broken in terms of Moodle 3.9 specifically. Thus on a test server only, install the 'master' branch from https://gitlab.com/jezhops/moodle-theme_adaptable and check that the issue has not already been raised here: https://gitlab.com/jezhops/moodle-theme_adaptable/-/issues. ; You must also have 'developer level' debugging on in order to get 'stack traces' for posting here.

Therefore please post any issue you find on this thread ONLY. If you could also list the steps to replicate the problem, then that would be really helpful and assist me to replicate the issue faster.

Thanks,

Gareth

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by Paul Vitagliano - Saturday, 1 August 2020, 1:19 AM

Moodle Rubric icons are cut off - see attached. Adaptable theme related issue.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 1 August 2020, 1:38 AM

Thanks, I'm not that familiar with rubrics, please could you provide the steps to replicate.

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by Paul Vitagliano - Saturday, 1 August 2020, 3:57 AM

Sure.

Turn Editing on.
Add an Assignment activity (the Moodle Assignment activity).
Give the assignment a name (required) and then scroll past most of the settings to the "Grade" settings.
- For "Grade" select "Point"
- For "Grading Method" select "Rubric"
Scroll to the bottom and click "Save and display"

On the following page you will see that the two Rubric action icons (Edit Rubric and Select from Template) at the top of the page are cut off - only about 20% of the icon and caption are visible.

Also, when you go into the advanced Assignment administration area, and, after you have created/imported the rubric, and you click "Define Rubric," then edit the actual rubric, and then save the changes, the rubric top icons change to 3 icons - Edit / Delete / Publish - and those are cut off too.

Hope this helps.

Paul

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by Gareth J Barnard - Wednesday, 5 August 2020, 5:41 PM

Thanks Paul, will be helpful when I get there.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Thursday, 6 August 2020, 3:08 AM

Dear Paul,

For some reason the 'btn' class was set a height, I've fixed it on GitLab. If you want custom CSS for your install, try adding:

.btn {
    height: auto;
}

Gareth

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by Paul Vitagliano - Thursday, 6 August 2020, 6:59 AM

Thanks, Gareth. We will try to make the modification and then update you on the results.

Paul

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Carlos Matheus - Friday, 7 August 2020, 12:42 AM

Thanks Gareth.

I don't know if I'm missing something here but when I do changes I do not see any results. Do I need to do something server side to make the css reload? Because I even changed the borders just to check and nothing changed in the page.

P.S. I work With Paul. It's part of the same site

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by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 7 August 2020, 1:43 AM

Depends on where you are making the changes and how. Please explain what you are doing.

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by Carlos Matheus - Friday, 7 August 2020, 2:41 AM

I went right in the css file for the buttons as you show in the gitlab. Made the changes to remove the Height property on the .btn a and saved the css file.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 7 August 2020, 5:13 AM

Did you 'Purge all caches'? And why did you not add the custom CSS I mentioned here https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=408081#p1647418 to the Custom CSS setting and save?

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by Carlos Matheus - Saturday, 8 August 2020, 12:17 AM

Because I didn't get it the first time you said it. I'm new to CSS in Moodle and theme fixes in it. Just re-read what you said and did it. Obviously it worked.
Thanks a lot for your help and responsiveness.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Chris Collman - Saturday, 8 August 2020, 6:40 PM

Thanks Gareth for picking up this project.

As mentioned by others, in the course context, there is no option to turn on or hide editing. It is controlled for the entire site by the Front Page function of turn editing on or hide. In my site this is a gear icon on the nav bar, just below the header that appears on the Front Page and at least the Home page of every course.

I had to give all our teachers editing rights to the Front Page so they could edit their course.

We are still crawling as if our Moodle was 1.5. Our host does not alter any core Moodle code and I think they have only added 3 plugins. My organization uses Quiz, Resource folders, Glossary, HTML blocks, Random Glossary Blocks and a Certificate plugin. The only issue I have discovered is with the show/hide.

Hope this helps. I would say our site is degraded but not broken.
Chris

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 8 August 2020, 8:04 PM

Thanks Chris,

Do you mean that the 'Turn editing on' link has gone from the administration block? If so, then is caused by a core regression as reported by me on MDL-69249. Otherwise you can always use the Adaptable settings to put the editing button on the navbar.

G

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Saturday, 8 August 2020, 9:33 PM

I can confirm that. The Adaptable settings allow you to add/modify the Editing button - under "Navbar Settings."

When we did our upgrade to 3.9 we have to modify the button display option to bring the button back up normally.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Saturday, 8 August 2020, 9:39 PM

Another minor by really annoying glitch. If you use a background image for the front page (under Layout) - every time a Moodle update or plugin update is added to the system, the background image - although the image is still showing as available in the front page image file area, the background image is not applied to the page - as if the link gets broken.

So what we then need to do is to delete the background image (that should be working in the first place) and then re-insert the background image and save changes. The background is then magically restored!

Something is causing that one piece of the Adaptable theme to get broken when Moodle/plugin upgrades take place.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 9 August 2020, 5:15 AM

Dear Paul,

What update procedure are you following? Does this happen when you just install a plugin? All very odd. What exact setting name please?

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by Paul Vitagliano - Sunday, 9 August 2020, 6:17 AM

Any procedure that involves a Moodle core upgrade or any plugin/block update, whenever server and/or services need to be restarted after the update. Our background image no longer is showing. We have to re-add it each time.

Here is the area where the background image is added. You can see that the background (behind the blocks) is a sea blue granite look. After an update, I have to delete this .jpg file and then re-add it again to bring the background back up, because the default light blue background replaces the jpg background after an update. Has been happening for about a year now.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 9 August 2020, 7:34 PM

Ok, very odd. Does it happen locally on a test server for you?

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by Paul Vitagliano - Sunday, 9 August 2020, 10:03 PM

Yes - we have three environments - Test, Staging and Production - and all produce the same result.

I think but I am not sure that something in the Moodle code is kicking this added .jpg out in Adaptable theme after a restart. Almost like it resets the background to the default color with no regard for an added file to replace.

Again, it’s not like I can’t add it back and it doesn’t work. It does. But having to “delete” the .jpg and then re-add it to bring the background up is annoying - across the three servers no less.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by jocelin Devalette - Friday, 14 August 2020, 2:27 PM

thx for working on such a wonderful themes.

With the update, the scrolling menus don't works:

menus

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 14 August 2020, 7:44 PM

What other plugins do you have installed? As I get on the AJAX response to opening a section:

Attachment Annotation 2020-08-14 124253.png

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Tuesday, 18 August 2020, 5:09 PM

Thank you for this great theme.

Personally, I just have an error when I log in but it doesn't prevent the operation ... and as it's not regular but just at the 1st opening (I don't have a screenshot to provide you today ) ....(it's possible that it just comes from "onlineconfirm" that I installed to facilitate the registrations).

I might as well let you know for the future update of the theme, you never know it might be something to take into account. (I'll complete this post with a screenshot when the problem occurs again...)

Thank you for everything

Good continuation

Franck

Tinkerer cook

(Edited by Gareth J Barnard - to remove signature, since they are not allowed in the forums according to the Moodle.org site policy https://moodle.org/mod/page/view.php?id=7080 - original submission Tuesday, 18 August 2020, 10:09 AM)

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by Gareth J Barnard - Tuesday, 18 August 2020, 8:19 PM

Thanks Franck, but you've left my mind spinning what the error is as you've not told me anything about it, just that it exists!

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by Paul Vitagliano - Tuesday, 18 August 2020, 8:50 PM

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. 🤓

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by Franck Pouffet - Tuesday, 18 August 2020, 10:20 PM

Yes I know but as it's just an information that tells me "connection error" but not systematically I didn't manage to make a screenshot today! (The thing is runaway ,-)
Otherwise, there's just this error message and when I click on "continue" I get to my assignment without any trouble...

But I promise, when it happens again, I'll take the screenshot.

In all this, I thank you for your concern.

Have a nice day.

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by Franck Pouffet - Wednesday, 19 August 2020, 1:13 PM

Well here's the thing... as I wasn't sure what to capture, I captured the error then followed the link to moodle and did a page inspection. This last one showing "stuff" in red, I present it to you you never know...

Thanking you for your action.

Yours sincerely

Franck

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by Gareth J Barnard - Monday, 24 August 2020, 1:53 AM

Dear Franck,

That is your site specific and nothing to do with Adaptable.

G

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by Franck Pouffet - Monday, 24 August 2020, 1:50 PM

Hello Gareth

All right, I'll keep looking, so...

If I can help update the theme, I'll be sure to come and see you.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Philippos Papadopoulos - Thursday, 27 August 2020, 10:33 PM

Hi Gareth,

I was using Adaptable with 3.6 and after upgrading to 3.9 at first I didn't notice anything broken . Hopefully that is good news but maybe my site is relatively simple. The main issue I noticed was when I first logged out and tried to login again: the login page form is not propertly laid out on the page (except for mobile (small) form factor). It is still functional but not presentable, with the text entry elements flush against the window edge. I don't have a screenshot as I switched to boost in the interim... Happy to try it again if there is preliminary release later on

Hope this helps

philippos

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by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 30 August 2020, 2:33 AM

Thanks Philippos, replicating and a screenshot would be helpful.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Jens Westermann - Thursday, 17 September 2020, 3:57 PM

Hi,

we switched from 3.84 to 3.92 and Adaptable 3.0.0. After upgrading, our main page hase changed. Choosing courses from the drop down menu, the colours have changed to unreadable. At first, it seems that there is no text in the box. Hovering with the mouse over it, the text is visible, even not clearly because of the colours. I attached two screenshots. We also tried the latest master build.

With Moodle 3.84 and Adaptable 2.2.2:

With Moodle 3.84 and Adaptable 2.22

With Moodle 3.92 and Adaptable 3.0.0:

With Moodle 3.92 and Adaptable 3.0.0

Regards,

Jens

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 18 September 2020, 1:30 AM

Ok, ta.

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by Jens Westermann - Friday, 18 September 2020, 3:19 AM

Sorry, I don't understand. Is this a bug?

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by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 18 September 2020, 4:10 AM

Its an anomaly.

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by Jens Westermann - Friday, 18 September 2020, 4:00 PM

Sorry for my dumb questions, I'm not a developer. Can it be fixed?

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by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 18 September 2020, 8:43 PM

Yes -> https://gitlab.com/jezhops/moodle-theme_adaptable/-/commit/1b2c91be2b32f0d8490e161f410ab978c390c3ec

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by Jens Westermann - Friday, 18 September 2020, 11:03 PM

Thanks, Gareth! Have a nice weekend!

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Lynn Daley - Saturday, 19 September 2020, 6:26 AM

There is no cog icon to rename/delete H5P activities in the content bank.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 19 September 2020, 7:52 AM

Make sure 'editsettingsbutton' is set to show a cog.

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by Lynn Daley - Sunday, 20 September 2020, 4:15 AM

It is set to show a cog. Cog shows everywhere but content bank

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by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 20 September 2020, 5:32 AM

Cannot replicate:

Attachment Screenshot 2020-09-19 223055.png

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by Sakariya Aynashe - Saturday, 24 October 2020, 4:22 AM

Hi Gareth, Thanks for providing great support for the adaptable theme.
I am using moodle 3.9.2 and adaptable 3.0.2.

I have several issues I would like to seek guidance.
1. On the main navigation menu, I have sub-menus (upto 4 levels), but when I hover over the parent-menus, all of the child sub-menus are displayed including grand-child menus (I only want the child-menu displayed) - screenshot attached.
2. On the login page, is there a way to disable the "top text box" and "bottom text box". They got displayed even if I leave them empty. (screenshot attached).
3. Finally, is it possible to display the social icons at the login page so that they are visible before even login in.

Thank you in advance,
Sakariya top and bottom text boxes

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by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 24 October 2020, 5:10 AM

Test data please.
Cannot replicate.
But they are when the social icons are in the footer.

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by Sakariya Aynashe - Saturday, 24 October 2020, 6:23 AM

Hi Gareth,

I was not sure how to provide test data, but here is what I could provide. Hope it helps replicate the issues.

1. Test data: I set the menu under Site administration>>Appearance>>Themes>>Theme settings

Then under "custom menu items", I created the menus and sub-menus as follows. (which worked fine with other themes):

Student Services
-General Services
--Mission
---Alumni Page
----Financial Info

NB: When I hover over the above submenu "Mission", all the sub-menus in "Alumni Page" and "Financial Info" gets displayed. While normally, only the "Alumni Page" sub-menu should be displayed.

2. Test data: under Site Administration>>Appearance>>Themes>>Adaptable>>Login Page

3. You are right Gareth, I can use the footer to display social icons.

Thank you in advance.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 25 October 2020, 12:46 AM

Dear Sakariya,

Please patch and test (on a test server) with:

then let me know how you get on.

G

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by Sakariya Aynashe - Tuesday, 27 October 2020, 2:07 AM

Dear Gareth,

You are the best Gareth.
I have just patched the above on a test server and they both worked fantastic.

Thank you so much for your absolutely unwavering support on the platform, really appreciate.

Sakariya

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Sakariya Aynashe - Tuesday, 3 November 2020, 4:00 AM

Hi Moodle Community,

I am using Moodle 3.9.2 and adaptable theme 3.0.2.

I wanted to change the font size for my course name and course participants. I wanted the course names to be bigger while the participant names need to be smaller. The opposite of the screenshot attached below.

Any idea of what settings I would need changed or CSS that I may need to add.

In short:
Below, course name (Test Course) is small - I want it bigger.
Also below, the course participant (Sakariya Aynashe) is big, I wanted it smaller.

Thank you.
Sakariya

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Sakariya Aynashe - Thursday, 5 November 2020, 11:20 PM

Any thoughts on the above?
May be Gareth or someone could steer me in the right direction.

Many thanks in advance.
Sakariya

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by Chris Taylor - Thursday, 5 November 2020, 11:38 PM

Exact same problem for me too, I'd love to know how to fix this. On an older version (2.2.2) the course name was much bigger and the teacher name much smaller.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 6 November 2020, 12:25 AM

Dear Sakariya and Chris,

Why not try and work out the CSS for yourselves? And if you want to learn how to this, then consider reading my eLearningWord posts, such as: https://www.elearningworld.org/a-little-bit-of-css-part-one/ (free) and having a go at the MoodleBites Tech prep course, also free: https://www.moodlebites.com/enrol/index.php?id=228. Both sites are run by HRDNZ, a Moodle Partner.

Gareth

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by Sakariya Aynashe - Thursday, 19 November 2020, 12:28 AM

Thanks Gareth for the directions. I was able to locate and fix the above CSS myself.

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by Séverin Terrier - Friday, 20 November 2020, 5:25 PM

Nice.

Would be better to explain how exactly you did it, because it can help other people.

Séverin

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Sakariya Aynashe - Saturday, 21 November 2020, 1:41 AM

I navigated to moodle/theme/adaptable/style/course.css
and then under:
.coursebox > .info > .coursename a {
font-size: 24 (original 14)

I changed the font-size from 14 to 24 and that fixed for me.

-Sakariya

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by DaVinci Menno - Thursday, 5 November 2020, 6:32 PM

Hi Gareth,

We have noticed some issues with how Adaptable 3.0.2 displays certain elements on the page.
We are testing this Adaptable version on our test-server that runs on Moodle 3.9.2 and have found that:

the breadcrumb breaks
text in the footer is being displayed in the body of the page.

See the screenshot below and the attachment for more information.
Could you please explain how I could fix these errors?

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

Menno

Attachment Text not displaying correctly.png

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Thursday, 5 November 2020, 9:18 PM

Dear Menno,

I've not seen that sort of thing before. Clearly the site has been customised. What custom CSS do you have? And there would not be a list of courses on the plugins overview screen so I don't know what's going on with the screen shot.

G

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by DaVinci Menno - Thursday, 5 November 2020, 9:52 PM

Thanks Gareth, the custom CSS was indeed the cause of the problem.
This code seems to have caused the problem:
".que .info {
float: none;
width: auto;
}
.que .info > div {
margin-left: 10px;
margin-right: 10px;
}
.que .info > div {
display: inline;
}
.que .content {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
width: auto;
}"

I removed this from our theme settings, which seems to have resolved the issue.
Once again, thank you!

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Chris Taylor - Thursday, 5 November 2020, 11:12 PM

Hi,
I have downloaded version 3.02 on Moodle 3.9. the course links in each category appear very small. Is there a way of making them bigger, or using thumbnails?

They used to look much bigger, like this on version 2.2.2, Moodle 3.8

Thanks

Chris

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by AL Rachels - Friday, 6 November 2020, 11:59 PM

I think all you need to do is hold down your keyboard Ctrl key, and the scroll your middle mouse wheel to change the size.

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by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 7 November 2020, 12:08 AM

That changes the zoom on the whole page not just the elements being asked for.

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by DaVinci Menno - Tuesday, 17 November 2020, 10:31 PM

Hi Gareth,
is Adaptable 3.0.0 going to support the plugin: https://moodle.org/plugins/local_edusupport ?
It works on the Boost theme, would be great if Adaptable supports this as well.

Kind regards,

Menno

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Tuesday, 17 November 2020, 11:21 PM

Hi Menno,

If I'm paid to support it then I will.

Kind regards,

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Sakariya Aynashe - Thursday, 19 November 2020, 12:45 AM

Hi Gareth,
Using moodle 3.9.2 and adaptable 3.0.2
Would you mind pointing in the direction of which CSS file that I should make changes to in order to have my courses surrounded by a border, as in the screenshot below. I couldn't seem to locate.

Thank you in advance.
Sakariya

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 20 November 2020, 8:47 AM

Dear Sakariya,

What do the browser development tools (F12) tell you? Then put the CSS you've worked out in the custom CSS setting.

G

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by James Farrell - Friday, 20 November 2020, 7:14 AM

Hi Gareth,

Thank you for maintaining the adaptable. I have just installed the latest version of moodle 3.92 on a test server along with adaptable 3.0.2. But I have noticed that the adaptable theme has an empty space margin between the header menu and the course categories. Refer to my image attached below for reference. Do you think there is a way to get rid of that empty space taking unnecessary big junk of space.

Even if I add a frontpage slider, still that big space exists.

Thank you.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Friday, 20 November 2020, 8:46 AM

Dear James,

I'm currently working on version 3.0.3 (unreleased) which has come a long way since 3.0.2 so difficult (time consuming) for me to get back and replicate. Therefore please use the browser developer tools (F12) to work out what's going on.

G

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by James Farrell - Friday, 20 November 2020, 9:23 AM

Thank you Gareth, I will try to use the developer tools to trace it.
By the way, will version 3.0.3 address the above issue in case I end up trying it once it is released?

James

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by James Farrell - Saturday, 21 November 2020, 2:01 AM

Hi Gareth,

Sorry to bother you. I have checked the developer tools for the above, and while I get the below html corresponding to the space that I want to get-rid of, I couldn't locate it in any of the css files in the moodle/theme/adaptable/style/ directory.

-James

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 21 November 2020, 7:37 PM

Patch your code with: https://gitlab.com/jezhops/moodle-theme_adaptable/-/commit/e2f17043637a397b1e4ac37bcc210f6058ba0ed3 and then empty the 'infobox' and 'infobox2' Adaptable settings.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by James Farrell - Sunday, 22 November 2020, 2:24 AM

Hi Gareth,
That worked and fixed my issue. Thank you so much for taking your time on this.

-James

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Tuesday, 15 December 2020, 3:13 AM

Possible Moodle 3.10+ (Build: 20201113) issues with Adaptable:

Picture 1: 1. Icons stacked instead of next to each other

Picture 2: Error when opening a PDF assignment for annotation

Picture 3: Assignment PDF Annotation Stamp selection problem

Picture 4: Search Forums box out of alignment

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Tuesday, 15 December 2020, 2:04 PM

Hello

I get an error message saying that a file does not exist at the time of connection :

"The requested file has not been found More information about this error"

(it doesn't block anything, you just have to keep going.... but it's ugly anyway).
And when I look at the url I get this:

moodle/draftfile.php/5/user/draft/744283478/Pub%20Campus%20pub%202.png

How can I change or delete this please?

Thanks for the help

franck

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Tuesday, 15 December 2020, 8:35 PM

Dear Franck,

This is the same / very similar to https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=415243 - borderline 'duplicate post' which I'm tempted to remove (moderator's hat on). Ok, I'm still none the wiser, please see my reply on https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=415243.

G

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Tuesday, 15 December 2020, 9:31 PM

Hello

sorry.

I didn't see your answer on the other post.

I answered in the right order now

Thanks for the help

franck

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Alfred Williams - Tuesday, 29 December 2020, 5:33 PM

Hi Gareth,

I would first like to thank you for managing this great theme.

I am using Moodle 3.9.3 and adaptable 3.0.2 version

I am having two issues after installing adaptable 3.0.2

My menus and submenu all open at once (I have actually incorporated the patches you posted on the above thread (shown below for your reference, but that didn't help):

My second issue is that the course category names are way too small while the Teacher name underneath it are much bigger (normally it is on the reverse).

Would appreciate some guidance.

Thank you in advance,

A. Williams

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Tuesday, 29 December 2020, 8:12 PM

Dear Alfred,

I don't know why the patches did not work, but I'm also not sure why you applied the setting one. I can't say why it does not work as you've modified the code that I cannot see, so I could not tell if you or I have made a mistake. On a test server, please install 'master' from https://gitlab.com/jezhops/moodle-theme_adaptable which will be 3.0.3 and say if that solves the problem. If not, then clearly there is another issue I'm not aware of and I'll then need more information from you on how to replicate.

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Alfred Williams - Saturday, 23 January 2021, 5:31 AM

Hi Gareth,
I am currently using Moodle 3.9 with the amazing adaptable 3.0.2.
I am trying to add formatting to the course summary box such as font colors - (see below screenshot) . Unfortunately, I don't see any font color options except the two below which I don't know how they got selected by the theme.

Below is how these colors appear once saved.

Secondly, is there a way to change the font size of the file names that are uploaded as resources.

Thank you in advance,
A. Williams

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 23 January 2021, 6:19 AM

Dear Alfred,

I think you can add styles with colours etc. via the core editor options / setup - I forget exactly where. Or you could use the editors HTML mode and use CSS instead. With your second question, custom CSS should do it, use the browser development tools (F12) to see if there is a specific CSS class that you can target / 'select'.

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Richard Oelmann - Monday, 25 January 2021, 3:29 PM

Hi Alfred - you may want to look at the Atto plugins "More colours" and "Styles", if you want to do this from editor tools. Otherwise Gareth's suggestion of editing the HTML and CSS is an option.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Alfred Williams - Tuesday, 26 January 2021, 3:30 AM

Thank you Gareth and Richard.
I will try your suggestions.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Friday, 29 January 2021, 11:42 PM

Gareth - I understand you are going to be monetizing this theme. We are in the USA - what price are we looking at to go to the paid version?

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Richard Oelmann - Saturday, 30 January 2021, 12:32 AM

The theme isn't monetised and there is no separate paid version.
What Gareth has said is that the work required to provide a 3.10 version would get done (quicker) if it was sponsored to allow him to dedicate the time to it.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Saturday, 30 January 2021, 1:29 AM

Dear Paul,

Further to what Richard has stated. I'm not monetising the theme. All I'm asking is for my time to be funded for the work required to produce a version that others need but I don't. If that situation changes, the clearly I'll work to produce a version for a given version of Moodle. Pragmatically, like almost happened with the Essential theme, I'd be opening myself up for lots of online abuse if I even attempted to monetise a theme that was once 'free' - i.e. make the whole theme 'paid for' or even 'parts of'. There is a whole backstory behind the current situation with Adaptable that I know, but it would be wrong and unprofessional of me to make that public for the reasons of client confidentiality, I hope you can understand and respect this.

My other plugins of Foundation theme, Collapsed Topics course format, Grid format course format, Theme selector block and SynHi filter will continue to be updated. This is because I use them to keep my skills and knowledge up to date. With Foundation, Collapsed Topics and SynHi, they are my 'babies' so like I imagine all parents are, I'm reluctant to give them up.

Kind regards,

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Sunday, 31 January 2021, 1:11 AM

Understood. In the meantime we have an Adaptable theme that has issues with Moodle 3.10.1. I have posted my screenshots in this forum. Will these be addressed (funding or no funding), or is this theme going to be allowed to decay?

I don't mean to be abrupt, but the reality is that our school depends on this theme working properly. I don't think I need to tell you the ramifications of our having to change a theme mid-flight because it is not being supported.

So, will you support and fix these issues without funding, or do I have to prepare to switch to a built in Moodle theme? Let me know.

Would hate to lose this theme, as it really is a wonderful one.

Paul

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 31 January 2021, 1:34 AM

Dear Paul,

The theme is not being allowed to 'decay', in fact it is alive and well in Moodle 3.9 and 3.8. It is even more healthier, efficient, fitter and more advanced since I've taken over.

No, I will not support and fix these issues without funding - pertaining to Moodle 3.10 and Adaptable (as it currently stands at the time of posting). As you can see from the other posts, I am already doing so for the Moodle 3.8 and 3.9 versions. In this case, I will not work for free in a commercial situation. I already contribute so much already.

Are you actually using the theme on M3.10 in a live running situation?

Kind regards,

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Sunday, 31 January 2021, 2:15 AM

On our TEST environment. I need to move to 3.10 - but with this theme, I can't. Thank goodness, I have a php expert solving some of the bugs, but others remain.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Sunday, 31 January 2021, 2:47 AM

Dear Paul,

Fair enough. I do sense though that you're getting angry with me for not doing this for free? Is this the case?

Ok, some perspectives on my decision. Over ten years ago I gave up my teaching job (because the hours and workload were killing me) and did an MSc for a year to reskill myself and surpass my BSc. This I funded out of my savings and with fees, living and paying my mortgage cost me a substantial amount of money out of my life's savings. I learnt some PHP on the course, and combined with the other skills of research and so forth, provided me with a greater ability to learn new things. Hence the skills I have gained over many years in Moodle theme development along with other aspects. I have to think of my own future and survival, I can't go on doing everything for nothing, I have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. Adaptable is complex and Moodle theme development is not what you'd call 'simple'. So please don't be annoyed just because I say 'no'.

Kind regards,

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Paul Vitagliano - Sunday, 31 January 2021, 3:31 AM

Gareth - I am not in the business of "getting angry" or annoyed. Let's keep emotions out of this, if OK with you. I am all about business.

All I needed was an answer on whether or not the theme would be supported without money. Your answer was no. Now I can proceed with other options.

See - nice and easy!

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Rick Jerz - Sunday, 31 January 2021, 8:14 AM

In these forums, I don't think one is supposed to discuss fees. But you might want to "personal message" Gareth to see what he needs, if you haven't done so yet, so that you can compare "his cost" to the cost of your other options.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Monday, 1 February 2021, 2:31 PM

Hello Gareth

Following the exchanges on the forum, I come back to you to define your financial needs my activity being incipient with moodle (less than 6 months that I am in small "profitability") it is necessary that I can define if the cost is "playable" for me.

Thank you very much
Kind regards
f.pouffet@cuisine-virtuelle.com
Franck

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Monday, 1 February 2021, 8:53 PM

Dear Franck,

Thank you for your reply. I'm not quite sure what you're saying?

Kind regards,

Gareth

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Emma Richardson - Monday, 1 February 2021, 9:20 PM

I think that this kind of situation is where it would be very useful if we could easily set up a funding option - I am sure that there are a lot of people that have moved to 3.10 and need adaptable fixed and if they could all contribute a little, Gareth would be able to get the funding needed and everyone will get the theme updated. Without trying to monetize the forums, there are times when a developer needs some financial help to get things done...

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Rick Jerz - Monday, 1 February 2021, 11:57 PM

Emma, I was thinking this way, too.

I don't know what it takes to create a website, or web page, for people to make donations.

It might be interesting someday to have a "donate" button next to every plugin. Then for some plugins, perhaps Adaptable, the author could set a "minimum requirement." Something like that! Don't know.

Yes, I do see that whenever I download a new version of Moodle, I am given the option to donate. Maybe something like this can be done for plugins.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Tuesday, 2 February 2021, 12:53 AM

"have a "Donate" button next to it" with a "minimum requirement".

Yes it's a good idea Rick

good day

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Emma Richardson - Tuesday, 2 February 2021, 3:04 AM

And I would stipulate that 10% goes to HQ - they would much more likely to support this idea that way!! Plus it would be a good way to support Moodle.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Tuesday, 2 February 2021, 1:48 PM

Yes Emma that's a good idea.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Hugo Ribeiro - Tuesday, 2 February 2021, 6:40 PM

This seems a very nice idea. Using a plugin to find a few months later that has been abandoned, or out of date is always stressful. Maybe this could prevent this to happen more often.

Would be a way to also to fund HQ, specially having in mind some ideas of a plugin service in the future.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Richard Oelmann - Tuesday, 2 February 2021, 7:29 PM

Just raising the huge difference in expectation between a funding contribution for a specific feature in a 3rd party plugin created by an independent member of the community and an ongoing commitment to maintain that plugin against all future versions of Moodle...

I believe HQ already have plans for the plugins database and how it operates from Moodle 4 onwards.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Rick Jerz - Wednesday, 3 February 2021, 12:17 AM

I understand what Hugo is saying. I am not the expert, but it seems to me that the definition of a plugin is "something that is free, and can be abandoned at any time." The rule seems to be "pick your plugins carefully." Yes, if using any plugin, one hopes that it gets updated as Moodle gets updated. But Adaptable , as Gareth mentioned, still works for many whose Moodles are not at 3.10. There are many folks who run pre-3.10 Moodles, so I wouldn't want to see Adaptable removed.

Richard, many years ago I had wondered why some of these great plugins were not part of core. But I have come to appreciate the Moodle "universe," which has a software product that can be (somewhat) easily improved by anyone in the world. And I can appreciate that the core Moodle cannot contain, and maintain, every plugin. So I live with my Moodle that has only a few plugins, and I keep my fingers crossed.

I am not debating anything Hugo or Richard have said. I agree. But I also understand the overall situation. I am also very thankful for all the hard work that Gareth and others have put into their plugins. When a "donate" but shows itself for "collapsed topics" I will be one of the first to donate. (Gareth, don't expect $M U.S., just a little something.)

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Gareth J Barnard - Wednesday, 3 February 2021, 2:30 AM

Thanks everybody for your replies.

With my moderators hat on, this has started to go off topic, so I'm going to lock it until I get advice.

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Re: Adaptable 3.0.0 request for input

by Franck Pouffet - Monday, 1 February 2021, 10:15 PM

Gareth

How much do you estimate your work for the Adaptable update (€)?
You can answer me on f.pouffet@cuisine-virtuelle.com

I also share Emma's comment

Kind regards

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