Why Microsoft is good for education

Why Microsoft is good for education

ved Visvanath Ratnaweera -
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BUCHAREST, October 4, 2014
"Romania’s political and business class has been rocked by a bribery scandal involving a state deal with Microsoft, which incriminates nine former ministers ahead of a crunch presidential election in November."
http://newseurope.me/2014/10/04/romanian-political-class-rocked-microsoft-bribe-scandal/
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Re: Why Microsoft is good for education

ved G. M. -

So it's always the same everywhere, proving that this is not country-related issue but just human nature at its best rækker tunge

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Re: Why Microsoft is good for education

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More surprises:
- There is a Microsoft education!
The "Microsoft Education Video " http://www.youtube.com/watch?foo=bar&v=TuKTiN5jQQo
http://www.microsoft.com/education/ (Read "See how 98% of schools use Microsoft technology")

- And yet, the "European Kids Clueless About Coding, Too [after U.S.]"
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/14/10/15/1235229/microsoft-facebook-declare-european-kids-clueless-about-coding-too
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Re: Why Microsoft is good for education

ved Matt Bury -
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Hi Visvanath,

M$, Facebook, Google, et al. are very good at marketing, PR, and making money. They're absolutely clueless about child developmental psychology. Do they actually expect 7 year-olds to perform the extremely abstract and complex reasoning necessary to write computer code? If anyone still thinks this is a good idea, please read Piaget, Vygotsky, or any respectable evidence-based child developmental psychology literature.

Seymour Papert et al at MIT designed a simplified language and software platform (Logo) to make computing accessible to children. It's very far removed from mainstream programming languages. There are now hundreds of versions of Logo, e.g. http://logo.codeplex.com/

Also, code.org and the like have only been around for a few months. It takes around 10-15 years to see the effects of changes in educational policies (doesn't seem to stop one-term politicians pretending to be experts and tinkering with it though). We'll find out how well it's working if they can sustain code.org, etc. until at least 2024.

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M$ must be getting desperate by now.

The EU has already made ODF (LibreOffice and Open Office) it's preferred standard format for documents. M$ Office doesn't support this but they might have to. The other thing is that multiple govt. agencies, municipalities, and even whole countries (e.g. Iceland) are switching over to Linux desktops which don't support M$ Office at all and come with Abiword, LibreOffice, or OpenOffice pre-installed. LibreOffice and Open Office can read and write M$ Office documents so there's little incentive to buy licences for M$ Office and install Wine on Linux so that you can run it.

I reckon M$ Office's days in the world outside the USA are numbered.

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ved Derek Chirnside -

*WRITER Sadly, I'm not quite there yet with Writer.  I have a few glitches.  But the ecosystem of support is growing.  See for example this: http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/libreoffice-for-lawyers/

IMO What has happened is the "I need to have this as my workflow" leading to clarity and focus of the help and future development.  It's not just "lets create this new functionality" that is so subtle few people actually need/use it.

Another challenge is the UI.  

*DRAW But, Draw, is really really cool.  And some great functionality to challenge Visio.

*IMPRESS What I'd like now is an Impress plugin to record voice + PPT slides directly to MP4.  This is Built in to PPT 2013.

-Derek

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ved dawn alderson -

*IMPRESS What I'd like now is an Impress plugin to record voice + PPT slides directly to MP4.  This is Built in to PPT 2013.


well-you can't have it always....phone call (partnership) to/with microsoft....ppt 2013-my spelling is not so good, so I cant spell it out for you.

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Re: Why Microsoft is good for education

ved Matt Bury -
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If it's a specific layout, e.g. legal brief or APA/MLA style paper, there's already templates available. Even if they're only in .doc format, you can still use them in LibreOffice, at least.

PPT? Why not use the Moodle Book module? I think it tends to make presentations better, i.e. less animated text and transitions so you have fewer distractions from concentrating on the actual content (PPT features make presentations worse, not better). If you want to embed MP3 audio easily there are repository plugins and filters to do that. Linux has all kinds of desktop, webcam, and mic recording tools too.

I think we're (very slowly) emerging from the M$ era. Most things are still referenced to M$ software products and there's a kind of functional fixedness ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_fixedness ) - or is it the Law of the Instrument? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument ) - whereby people want to reproduce the way they do it in M$ with other tools, no matter how difficult, awkward, cumbersome, incompatible, and inappropriate it may be.

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Pointless PowerPoint

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Another huge tangent, sorry! Seach the web for "pointless powerpoint"!
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Re: Pointless PowerPoint

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There is a point in PowerPoint after all:
"In a web-based attack scenario, an attacker would have to host a website that contains a specially crafted Microsoft Office file, such as a PowerPoint file, that is used in an attempt to exploit this vulnerability."
https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/3010060

(found in, where else (?), http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/10/22/1349229/windows-0-day-exploited-in-ongoing-attacks )
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Re: Pointless PowerPoint

ved G. M. -

Mhhh... Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8... but no Windows XP... that's reassuring rækker tunge... well, not really, LOL stort grin as that wouldn't come as a surprise to an XP'er, but it is nice to see it anyway smiler

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Re: Pointless PowerPoint

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Guillermo

(I saw the smiley. ;')

Windows XP is not mentioned because it is dead! It had (has) OLE, which is not different from its successor.
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Re: Pointless PowerPoint

ved G. M. -

Right!

And how could something

that is dead be a problem?

Ask the zombies! stort grin

zombies 

Arrrrggghhh....

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Re: Pointless PowerPoint

ved Matt Bury -
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Zombies? What zombies?


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Zombies? What zombies?

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Guillermo

Is that your XP wall paper today? You need to call an exorcist!
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Re: Zombies? What zombies?

ved G. M. -

Hehe, I AM the exorcist! I bet we have all been there... one's called to see about a computer that started having some kind of issue, one arrives, starts it and everything runs fine, to the complete astonishment of the owner stort grin

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Re: Zombies? What zombies?

ved Matt Bury -
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Should we rename IT support to computer exorcists?

XKCD.com

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Re: Zombies? What zombies?

ved G. M. -

And yes, then we have the real cases! But to which we have the ever powerful format-and-reinstall-everything rite stort grin

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Re: Zombies? What zombies?

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But how do we cast out the demons without casting out the computer's soul with them? Do Windows, OS X, iOS, and Android come with demons pre-installed, as Saint Ignutius claims, or do they become possessed by malware and bugs after contact with evil spirits through the ether? Where does the computer's soul reside? Can a computer's soul be transferred from one computer to another or does it become another being, i.e. a separate and distinct duplicate?

Computer theology anyone?

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Re: Pointless PowerPoint

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Talking of alternatives to pointless PowerPoint Prezi http://prezi.com/ is perhaps the most known. According to the local newspaper Microsoft itself has second thoughts about PP and pushing Sway: "Sway is an app for expressing your ideas in an entirely new way, across your devices. Our vision video shows the direction Sway is heading in, and joining Preview is how you can help shape that future". https://sway.com.