http://www.glyphdoctors.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=96
Your help would be very much appreciated!
I was wondering if someone could do me a small (but very important) favor and package a font for me to use in a flash reordering module. All I have is a copy of Flash 5, which seems to be too old to work with Jamie's font packager extension. You can find Windows and Mac versions of the font I need packaged available for download on my Web site on the following page:
http://www.glyphdoctors.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=96
Your help would be very much appreciated!
http://www.glyphdoctors.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=96
Your help would be very much appreciated!
Thanks for the offer. The instructions are here:
http://jamiep.org/mod/wiki/view.php?id=145&page=Packaging+Fonts+for+Loading+By+Flash
The problem that I encountered with this was that the version of the extension manager available for Flash 5 is not compatible with Jamie's packager, but since the extension manager for Flash MX is a different version I'm sure it would work. The extension manager can be downloaded here:
http://www.macromedia.com/exchange/em_download/
http://jamiep.org/mod/wiki/view.php?id=145&page=Packaging+Fonts+for+Loading+By+Flash
The problem that I encountered with this was that the version of the extension manager available for Flash 5 is not compatible with Jamie's packager, but since the extension manager for Flash MX is a different version I'm sure it would work. The extension manager can be downloaded here:
http://www.macromedia.com/exchange/em_download/
Hi again Nicole,
Sorry for taking so long in responding but getting the fonts is not as easy as I expected. Are you really in a hurry for this? I'm saying this because I went to the computer in my university where we had Flash MX installed and it is gone. Somebody has uninstalled it. I've been told that we still have a license so I could get it installed again but it might take one or two days. Things are extremely burocratic in our universities and they won't allow me to just get the CD and install it myself. It has to be one of the "authorized" computer guys and they are usually busy.
Let me know how important it is for you so that I know how much pressure I have to apply
Josep M
Sorry for taking so long in responding but getting the fonts is not as easy as I expected. Are you really in a hurry for this? I'm saying this because I went to the computer in my university where we had Flash MX installed and it is gone. Somebody has uninstalled it. I've been told that we still have a license so I could get it installed again but it might take one or two days. Things are extremely burocratic in our universities and they won't allow me to just get the CD and install it myself. It has to be one of the "authorized" computer guys and they are usually busy.
Let me know how important it is for you so that I know how much pressure I have to apply
Josep M
Hi Nicole,
I finally worked out what was required!
Please find attached font package, as requested. 
I finally worked out what was required!
Please find attached font package, as requested.
I uploaded the files, they are showing up in the configuration, I check the box, give the name of the file when it is asked for, the bar showing the status of the loading shows them loading, and then all I get is this, the same tiny grey squares I got when I had no font installed. Considering that the instructions on Jamie's wiki page don't seem to correspond exactly to what I see in the version I am using, I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.
Jamie-I don't think unicode is an issue, as these are not unicode fonts. Here's another suitable font, this time not italic, not bold. Helen, if it isn't too much trouble for you try this one, otherwise I can seek out a computer at my university that has Flash installed.
Hi Nicole,
Please find attached font package, as requested. I wasn't sure which embed ranges to choose so I selected them all.
Please find attached font package, as requested. I wasn't sure which embed ranges to choose so I selected them all.
Argggh! The grey squares remain. Jamie, anyone? Is it a problem with the font again or is it just my settings? Anyone got a package of fonts that is proven to work so I can see where the problem lies? It's hard to figure out what is going on since Helen is packaging the fonts and I'm implementing it. Maybe I need to package the fonts myself to be able to troubleshoot this. And also because the instructions don't match the current version of the module, I have no clue what exactly I should be doing with the settings.
Make sure you are entering the font name exactly as it appears in Font drop down boxes. Don't forgot to correctly capitalize and space the name.
Are you using a Mac? There is a problem with sizing the letters correctly using the Mac Flash player which I'll try and find a fix for soon.
You will need to work out exactly which letters you want to use. The last font I downloaded had letters at strange character code positions.
Jamie
Are you using a Mac? There is a problem with sizing the letters correctly using the Mac Flash player which I'll try and find a fix for soon.
You will need to work out exactly which letters you want to use. The last font I downloaded had letters at strange character code positions.
Jamie
No I'm not using Mac and if by the last font you downloaded you are referring to the font I posted yes the characters are in strange positions on the keyboard. But that shouldn't be a problem , should it, as long as I type the right characters to get what I want.
In terms of typing the name of the font, do I need to add the file extension to it? If so, which one of the two file names should I include?
In terms of typing the name of the font, do I need to add the file extension to it? If so, which one of the two file names should I include?
Hi Nicole!
In terms of typing the name of the font, do I need to add the file extension to it? If so, which one of the two file names should I include?
You need to type the name of the font exactly as it appears in drop down boxes in Word or whatever, not the filename. Sounds like this could be the problem??
Jamie
if by the last font you downloaded you are
referring to the font I posted yes the characters are in strange
positions on the keyboard. But that shouldn't be a problem , should it,
as long as I type the right characters to get what I want.
The issue is not what letters you type but what range of letters you (or Helen) embeds. There are ranges you can select in the extension such as Japanese Hiragana, Kanji, Cyrillic letters, western alphanumerics and punctuation but you may need to define a special range for your font that uses strange codes. But this shouldn't prevent you seeing some letters in your test where the letters have the same key codes as western letters.In terms of typing the name of the font, do I need to add the file extension to it? If so, which one of the two file names should I include?
Jamie
Don't let the odd appearance of the letters in the font fool you. It uses the standard English keyboard. It's just when you type a or b or c or whatever you see a different character, but the underlying letters they correspond to are the English keys. This is no more than the standard Western European ASCII set.
I tried changing to the standard name of the font as you suggested and I still get the same grey squares. So I tried creating a new flash movie, and now I get this message after I fill in the information on the first page and click to go to the next page: "There is no HTML file for this movie."
Do you have a package that you know works that you could share? That way I could test it and see if the problem lies with my package or my settings.
There is no HTML file for this movie.
You need to have files movie.html and movie.swf both with the same name in a directory also with exactly the same name in this case movies/movie/Here is a font package for some logic symbols. It is a Lucida Sans Unicode font (enter the font name exactly as it is).
There is an example question to try in the text ordering quiz in the zip as well. If some of the letters appear as small squares in your text viewer that is OK. Copy and paste them into the update activity page and they should appear OK in the quiz.
J
By the way thanks for bringing up the font embedding question in the forums here. I'm hoping to get the time to try and get sifr working with these same packaged font files, in other words seperating out the font file from the main sifr movie and having the main sifr movie load the font files dynamically.
I see on your site you are working on a way to embed fonts in your site. You are working on a sifr implementation? Hope you let us know what you find out.
Jamie
I see on your site you are working on a way to embed fonts in your site. You are working on a sifr implementation? Hope you let us know what you find out.
Jamie
Jamie-I'm not actually embedding fonts in my site. What I have done is put up Windows and Mac versions of the most commonly used Egyptian transliteration font (the italic font I first tried, which is also free to use) for users of my site to download to their own computers. Then I made 2 fonts available in my Moodle. The first is called "Standard Font" and is Trebuchet and a list of alternative sans serif fonts. The second is the transliteration font, called "Transliteration", and in addition to the two names of the font, I added to the list Times New Roman and a general serif font. Even if one person has the transliteration font on their computer and another doesn't, they can still read the transliteration with a serif font. Why? Because there is a standard computer coding system used in Egyptology called Manuel de Codage that specifiies standard English letters as alternatives to the transliteration font. That way even if someone doesn't have the font, they will see it in Manuel de Codage (I'm using a serif font, just to distinguish it clearly from the standard text using sans serif font) and they should be able to interpret it just as if it were in transliteration. I hope that makes sense.
What I also am hoping to do is to incorporate an open source hieroglyphic encoding program into the html editor so students can include hieroglyphs in their posts. But that simply is a program that allows you to specify how the glyphs are laid out (again using Manuel de Codage standards for indicating individual hieroglyphs), and then it arranges them together using image files.
What I also am hoping to do is to incorporate an open source hieroglyphic encoding program into the html editor so students can include hieroglyphs in their posts. But that simply is a program that allows you to specify how the glyphs are laid out (again using Manuel de Codage standards for indicating individual hieroglyphs), and then it arranges them together using image files.
I know, it's been nearly five months, but I haven't yet tried packaging the font Helen packaged for me myself. I was thinking about going to do that today and in refreshing my memory about how this module worked I realized something that makes no sense to me. The package Jamie sent contains a font called "Logic," but in order for it to display properly, I must input "Lucida Sans Unicode" in the "Font for Text" box. This makes absolutely no sense and I am now beginning to wonder if the trouble I am having with the font package Helen made for me has nothing to do with the package itself, but how I am naming it in "Font for Text." I've tried every possible permutation of the font's name but I am beginning to think it is something less logical than that-I mean how does "Lucida Sans Unicode" produce "Logic"?
I see. I thought it was actually the font named "logic." OK, then I will go ahead with my own packaging efforts this morning. You mentioned something about size problems on Macs. The computer i am going to use to package the font is a Mac. Will that make a difference in the packaging or is it only in the end display?
I'm ready to give up on this module as it seems to be hopeless. I am sitting right now at a Mac with Flash MX 7.0 installed. I successfully installed your extension, but when I try to create the package it doesn't do what it is supposed to do. First of all, it doesn't show the ranges. It won't let me choose a location to save the files, and it gives me a long error message when I try to package it that I have no way of reproducing here. I can't go any further than this as I have no other computers to try it on as my university doesn't have Flash installed on its Windows computers.
If anyone else is willing to package up the font for me I would appreciate it. I posted a zip file of the font (umschrfit) in a post above. I can give you a Mac version if needed. I just need it packaged and information on what name to use to refer to it.
If anyone else is willing to package up the font for me I would appreciate it. I posted a zip file of the font (umschrfit) in a post above. I can give you a Mac version if needed. I just need it packaged and information on what name to use to refer to it.