What kind of DSL should I get?

What kind of DSL should I get?

by N Hansen -
Number of replies: 18
We're going to be moving to somewhere more permanent next month and I want to get DSL. I don't have a lot of experience with high speed connections in the US and am wondering what package woud be sufficient. All I have used here have been my mother's connection (which is very high speed at $50 a month and she is near a hub of some kind which makes it quite fast) and the connections at my university, which obviously are even faster than that.

However, what I am looking at are the following packages:

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Would the Express package be sufficient, or is it worth it to shell out ten more dollars for the Pro package? Anybody have experience at these speeds who can advise? Thanks.

Nicole
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Martin Dougiamas -
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I arrived back from NZ to find that my ISP was offering an upgrade from my 1.5Mbs (which was the fastest ADSL possible around here) to 8Mbs at the same price! Within a hour my line was upgraded and I was running. cool

The extra speed is really really nice, especially for things like opening large IMAP mailboxes, or watching really high-quality streaming video, or doing 5 big-bandwidth things at once. Video conferencing is smoother, web pages are snappier etc.

I'm probably a bit more of an internetaholic than most ... perhaps most people wouldn't notice the difference.
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get? Internetaholic !

by Joyce Smith -
"internetaholic "

Mart ,
Not heard that one before !! It's scary !!
JS
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get? Internetaholic !

by Andrea Bicciolo -
I think it is similar to "workaholic", "maniac of work", thus "internetaholic", "maniac of internet". Scary? wink
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get? Internetaholic !

by Martin Dougiamas -
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(Martin checks Joyce's activity report)  Hmm, you're here every day too, Joyce!  wink big grin
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Sean Keogh -
Argh!!!

Because the cottage we are moving into is in the middle of the Oxfordshire countryside, the best I can get is 512k.

Assuming that British Telecom ever get around to enabling the line (It was still dead last night...voice and data, one week after the engineer called and said "It'll be up by this evening")


Sean K Beardie
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by N Hansen -
The programmer of a database I work on moved to the Irish countryside and.the horror! the horror!...had no other choice but dial-up!
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by John Papaioannou -
8Mbps at home!!!! surprisesurprisesurprisesurprisesurprisesurprisesurprisesurprise

I hate you! tongueout

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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Martin Dougiamas -
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I better not tell you that it's going up to 20Mbs within months, then!... tongueout

I've been so used to Australia being behind everyone for years in the ADSL front but with companies putting DSLAMs in the major telephone exchanges we are finally getting some real action here!
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by John Papaioannou -
evil

Why didn't you tell me that the broadband situation Down Under was making you feel bad? A quick trip to Greece would have put your mind at ease again! wink
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by N Hansen -
Or Egypt for that matter...I thought I had it so good working at the American University in Cairo where we had probably the fastest connections in the whole country and could download a few megabytes in just a couple minutes-until I went to visit my parents in California and was able to download a 4.5 mB file in a second! Dial-up doesn't differ so much here in the US from Egypt, but even the best DSL in Egypt, which I had at my other job, is pretty bad. I just remember my frustration when I had to upload hundreds of files to a server here in the US from Cairo, and having to keep retrying until it happened.
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Tony Hursh -
I have SBC (formerly Ameritech) DSL service here in Champaign-Urbana, and it's been rock solid. There's been only one major outage of about half a day in approximately three years, although it does occasionally go out for a couple of minutes late at night (system maintenance, most likely).

I gather that's not the case everywhere, however. You might want to check http://dslreports.com to see what SBC's record is like in Chicagoland.

I started out with their 768 kbps service, which they upgraded to the "384-1.5 Mbps" service for free a while back. I usually get well above 1 Mbps, so it's an honest description.

I didn't realize the price for the "1.5-3.0 Mbps" service had dropped that much. Now I want to upgrade. smile

If it were me, I'd definitely get the 3.0 Mbps service.


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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Ray Lawrence -
I have a 1Mbs / 128Kbps cable service. I find the d/l speed fine (I'm not doing much streaming), the upload speed it a bit slow. Go for the faster one would be my recommendation.
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Andrea Bicciolo -

Usually the main difference among offers such as "pro" and "express" is the number of people who shares the same bandwidth. The higher the price, the lower should be the people allowed to use the bandwith, the most likely the possibility to get higher connection speed during high traffic working hours. 

Try to ask your provider this parameter then select the offer. Most probably the "pro" will become more appealing to you.

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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Bob Boufford -

When I moved to Canada from the States, I found it best to ask around, particularly anyone who might be in your new neighborhood or condo/apartment complex. I was going to go with DSL but heard all sorts of negatives about DSL in the area and went with cable.  However, colleagues who live in another part of the city have just the opposite issues.

Once nice thing about cable is the ability to usually get a bundle deal with the cable TV service. Also, I don't know about other areas, but around here the DSL provider wants you to register the MAC address of your system or router while the cable company doesn't care. So it makes it easier to switch around systems and routers without constantly making phone calls or logging in to cancel one MAC and add the second MAC to your profile.

As to speed, I'm ready to go with the "Extreme" (Pro) as I have my Moodle server on my home so when I try to "download" from the server, I'm actually "uploading" at the slower speed.

Cheers,

Bob

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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by John Gone -
Good points Bob, the MAC address registration issue can be a real pain. I've helped people get their routers working over DSL and it ain't fun the way getting a new router online is. The reason for registration is to avoid having to logon everytime you go online but it's still a pain.

Congrats to the 8Mbps package owners, I'm turning green...

Just by way of comparison my cable carrier partners with an ISP and this amounts to $42 CDN per month for digital cable and $42 CDN per month for 1.5 Mbps internet
 
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by N Hansen -
You know, asking is a good idea. Actually, the server that holds all the data files (but not the database) for the project I work for in Egypt is actually sitting in someone's apartment here in Chicago, and I believe he lives just down the same street where I am moving. He has to have a somewhat decent connection...so I will definitely ask him what he uses.
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Re: What kind of DSL should I get?

by Chris Ainsworth -

It has been interesting to see the varying replies to an open-ended question. One must ask one's self what is the purpose of this connection. 

Is it for general / personal use where downloading is the criteria?
Is it for testing connection and speed response from given sources?
Are you hosting your server in tis environment?
Are you developing and uploading files continually to your server?

We all want the latest and greatest in terms of download.  Hey time is money, however if your role is for testing and evaluating resources and the speed in which students experience, then you really need to consider a lowest common denominator. If you are serious about the work you are doing, then you may also need two options / alternatives. I run both a Dial-up and an ADSL here - one for testing and the other for general work. 

Yes there is a cost involved, however it does ensure that the materials deployed are functional within the environment. In the end - if you have a slow delivery for the many that will connect using dialup, then you have a high probability that you will loose that student base.  On the flip side - those that have low speed ADSL will be served well and those with a high-speed connection, will consider your program the best thing since sliced bread.

I would be interested to know how many Moodle sites have surveyed their student base to see what their connection is.  Maybe this could be a part of the user registration page, as it is an indicator for the type of program delivery and the level of resources one will make available for the student base.  This is one area where I would consider those in say a dial-up area, creating a course where the resources are supplied on CD/DVD (CD preferred as this is the lowest common denominator at the moment) but in time this will change.

In reality we should be targeting our connection speed predominantly used by our student base, that way we are continually reminded of their experiences.

For developers - well as fast as you can get and for those hosting their server at home  - a synchronous connection 512Kbps min, otherwise your student base will soon get bored and move elsewhere. 

Just two more bits worth -

Cj