Hallo Klaus
Meinst du den Cronjob von Moodle, ./admin/cli/cron.php oder etwas wie ./auth/ldap/cli/sync_users.php?
Visvanath Ratnaweera
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Deutsche Moodler -> Moodle-Technikforum -> Bearbeitung der Teilnehmer nicht mehr möglich -> Re: Bearbeitung der Teilnehmer nicht mehr möglich
by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
Hallo Steffi
> never change a running system
Verstehe. Aber es hat sich was geaendert, oder?
Im Ernst. Das Problem ist, auch wenn man die neuen Features nicht braucht, ist man gezwungen irgendein Versionsrennen mitzumachen, sei es Moodle oder PHP oder sonst was. Irgendeinmal hat man sich in eine Ecke manoevriert.
Achtung: Ich sage nicht, dass ein Moodle Upgrade die Loesung ist! Ein konservatives Vorgehen waere, den alten stabilen Zustand wiederherstellen, festnageln (sichern), vor dort aus Schritte nach Vorne wagen. Du kannst sogar vor jedem Schritt hier fragen. Zum Beispiel, der Weitsprung 2.2 -> 3.2 geht gar nicht!
> never change a running system
Verstehe. Aber es hat sich was geaendert, oder?
Im Ernst. Das Problem ist, auch wenn man die neuen Features nicht braucht, ist man gezwungen irgendein Versionsrennen mitzumachen, sei es Moodle oder PHP oder sonst was. Irgendeinmal hat man sich in eine Ecke manoevriert.
Achtung: Ich sage nicht, dass ein Moodle Upgrade die Loesung ist! Ein konservatives Vorgehen waere, den alten stabilen Zustand wiederherstellen, festnageln (sichern), vor dort aus Schritte nach Vorne wagen. Du kannst sogar vor jedem Schritt hier fragen. Zum Beispiel, der Weitsprung 2.2 -> 3.2 geht gar nicht!
Deutsche Moodler -> Moodle-Technikforum -> Bearbeitung der Teilnehmer nicht mehr möglich -> Re: Bearbeitung der Teilnehmer nicht mehr möglich
by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
Hello Steffi
Moodle hat eine lange Versionsgeschichte: 1.0, ...1.9, 2.0, ... 2.9, 3.0, ... 3.2.
https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Releases
Die Geschichte von PHP ist noch laenger, 1.0, ... 7.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#Release_history
Es waere zu schoen, wenn jede Moodle Version mit jedem PHP gehen wuerde! Nein, die Voraussetzungen sind dokumentiert, wie z.B. https://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Upgrading_to_Moodle_2.2#System_requirements (fuer Moodle 2.2).
Vielleicht ist es besser, du sagst warum du Moodle 2.2 in A.D. 2017 fuer eine Neuinstallation gewehlt hast, oder noch besser, erklaerst was du vorhast.
Moodle hat eine lange Versionsgeschichte: 1.0, ...1.9, 2.0, ... 2.9, 3.0, ... 3.2.
https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Releases
Die Geschichte von PHP ist noch laenger, 1.0, ... 7.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#Release_history
Es waere zu schoen, wenn jede Moodle Version mit jedem PHP gehen wuerde! Nein, die Voraussetzungen sind dokumentiert, wie z.B. https://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Upgrading_to_Moodle_2.2#System_requirements (fuer Moodle 2.2).
Vielleicht ist es besser, du sagst warum du Moodle 2.2 in A.D. 2017 fuer eine Neuinstallation gewehlt hast, oder noch besser, erklaerst was du vorhast.
Moodle in English -> Comparisons and advocacy -> MS Office SharePoint vs Moodle, 2017 A.D. -> Re: MS Office SharePoint vs Moodle, 2017 A.D.
by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
Hi Tim
Thanks for sharing your experience! In fact I have access to a SharePoint. It is so rudimentary I thought I am too dumb to discover its features. Relieved to hear that there is nothing much to discover!
My impression on SharePoint is that it is basically a way of sharing files. So those teachers for whom e-Teaching is distributing files, it might suffice. I said "might" because there is a huge usability problem, at least in our SharePoint. It does not reflect the classes and courses structure we have in Moodle. So depending on how each teacher thinks students have to search for files everywhere!
This problem is not resolved by having a web-based Office Suite.
Now imagine, a teacher wants to collect the solution of an assignment, as files, and grade them. How to do that in SharePoint, considering the functionality of the Assignment activity of Moodle?
That is the tip of the iceberg. How about forum, wiki, glossary and a dozen of other built-in activities? Not to mention the versatility of the on-line testing tool Quiz. We haven't even touched the third-party plug-ins, reporting tools and interfaces, ... goes on and on...
> Sharepoint does have rudimentary wiki, with a HTML editor that is much worse than Moodle's. If you edit even a simple page, with text, headings, and bulleted lists, it can get into a real mess. There have been times when I have had to copy and paste the HTML of a page into my text editor, and use lots of regular expressions to clean it up.
That is a real shock! The editing tool decides between life and death for me! (You guessed it: If Moodle had Vim... ;) )
Thanks for sharing your experience! In fact I have access to a SharePoint. It is so rudimentary I thought I am too dumb to discover its features. Relieved to hear that there is nothing much to discover!
My impression on SharePoint is that it is basically a way of sharing files. So those teachers for whom e-Teaching is distributing files, it might suffice. I said "might" because there is a huge usability problem, at least in our SharePoint. It does not reflect the classes and courses structure we have in Moodle. So depending on how each teacher thinks students have to search for files everywhere!
This problem is not resolved by having a web-based Office Suite.
Now imagine, a teacher wants to collect the solution of an assignment, as files, and grade them. How to do that in SharePoint, considering the functionality of the Assignment activity of Moodle?
That is the tip of the iceberg. How about forum, wiki, glossary and a dozen of other built-in activities? Not to mention the versatility of the on-line testing tool Quiz. We haven't even touched the third-party plug-ins, reporting tools and interfaces, ... goes on and on...
> Sharepoint does have rudimentary wiki, with a HTML editor that is much worse than Moodle's. If you edit even a simple page, with text, headings, and bulleted lists, it can get into a real mess. There have been times when I have had to copy and paste the HTML of a page into my text editor, and use lots of regular expressions to clean it up.
That is a real shock! The editing tool decides between life and death for me! (You guessed it: If Moodle had Vim... ;) )
Moodle in English -> Comparisons and advocacy -> MS Office SharePoint vs Moodle, 2017 A.D.
by Visvanath Ratnaweera -
Hi all
I believe this is a recurring topic. Just read this discussion "MS Sharepoint VS. Moodle" https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=41750 and curious to know the situation a good decade later.
The article "What is SharePoint" https://support.office.com/en-us/article/What-is-SharePoint-97b915e6-651b-43b2-827d-fb25777f446f says, "Organizations use SharePoint to create websites. You can use it as a secure place to store, organize, share, and access information from almost any device. All you need is a web browser, ..." I am interested in the szenario, where the teachers of conventional (state-owned, teachers and pupils arrive in flesh-and-blood in brick-and-mortar classrooms, ...) schools and other institutions in secondary and tertiary education, how they could improve the quality of teaching using either SharePoint of Moodle.
I am familiar with Moodle but not with SharePoint, as such thankful for all your insights, specially from those who know both sides and directly involved in teaching, ideally in similar institutions.
I believe this is a recurring topic. Just read this discussion "MS Sharepoint VS. Moodle" https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=41750 and curious to know the situation a good decade later.
The article "What is SharePoint" https://support.office.com/en-us/article/What-is-SharePoint-97b915e6-651b-43b2-827d-fb25777f446f says, "Organizations use SharePoint to create websites. You can use it as a secure place to store, organize, share, and access information from almost any device. All you need is a web browser, ..." I am interested in the szenario, where the teachers of conventional (state-owned, teachers and pupils arrive in flesh-and-blood in brick-and-mortar classrooms, ...) schools and other institutions in secondary and tertiary education, how they could improve the quality of teaching using either SharePoint of Moodle.
I am familiar with Moodle but not with SharePoint, as such thankful for all your insights, specially from those who know both sides and directly involved in teaching, ideally in similar institutions.