Glenys Hanson

(I wrote this while you and Mary were posting messages - but you'll see Mary and I say much the same thing in different words. )

Hi John,

I'll try and clarify a few things for you. Sorry if some of this you already know.

First Quiz and Hot Potatoes are two quite separate Moodle activities. It's true that they can create quite similar quizzes but they do it in very different ways.

Quiz is a "native" part of Moodle but is quite complex for newcomers to understand. It works in Moodle 2.0 -  though some things need a little polishing.

Hot Potatoes is a quiz generater developed quite outside of Moodle. You can put Hot Potatoes quizzes on any web site, not just Moodle. To create a Hot Potatoes quiz you have first to download the application fromthe  Hot Potatoes home page and create the quizzes on your computer. (In my opinion, it's easier for beginners to learn how to use Hot Potatoes than the Moodle quiz.) Then you have to upload your quizzes with the HotPot Module where they will display on your course page and look like this.

With the name of your quiz of course, not "JCloze standard".

The scores will be recorded in the Moodle gradebook.

It's true that in Moodle 1.9 you can import Hot Potatoes files into Moodle quizzes but I wouldn't recemmend it for a beginner. I don't think that this is working yet in Moodle 2.0

The Hot Potatoes Module has only been available for Moodle 2.0 for a bout 10 days and we "oldies" are still testing it to get the bugs out - though most of it works fine. I would wait a bit before trying to use the Hot Potatoes Module in Moodle 2.0. I don't think it will be long: maybe 2/3 weeks.

In the meantime, you can learn how to use the Moodle Quiz - you can do a lot with that though it may take some time to get the hang of.

Personally, I don't intend to use Moodle 2.0 with real students before September 2011 at the earliest, not particularly because of Quiz and Hot Potatoes but because of all the other problems I read about on these forums. This is true of many applications: only brave souls try out the ".0" version, the rest of us nervous nellies wait for the ".1". But I'll do a lot of playing with it before then off line because Moodle 2 has some great functionalities that I'm eager to try out.

Cheers,

Glenys

Hi Gordon,

I've tested 02_websequitur.htm (based on the htm file) as thoroughly as I can.

We need fake students to test some parameters and a few things I didn't know how to check. It's all noted in the attached file.

Cheers,

Glenys

Hi Gordon,

Ajax is working fine today - I must have not emptied the cache yesterday.

Sorry.

Glenys

Hi Matt,

That's again very useful and, I'm sure, not just to me which is why I've put your original post and your replies to my questions (just one tiny edit on my part) together like this:

"This is a change in how Moodle 2.0 deals with files. Think of it like a Microsoft Word file. When you insert an image into Microsoft Word, it doesn't make a folder on your computer and stick your image in it, then link out to it. Instead it makes the image PART of the Doc file. Moodle is now, sort of, doing the same thing. It's embedding the image directly into the page you're inserting it into to -- in this case a quiz question.

I won't be able to explain it in technical terms, but when you're editing the page, you're editing the draftfile.php version of the file (which only you, the editor, can see), but when you Save it, it moves it over to  pluginfile.php which is viewable by all users enrolled in the course.

In order to use the same image ten times, you would need to insert that image 10 times. You can either

A.) Upload the image to your personal file repository, and then when you insert the image, insert it from there using the File Picker.

I believe everyone has My Private Files automatically enabled. Students, obviously, can only insert images where they're allowed -- in forum posts, for instance, and can't edit Lessons or quizzes.

B.) Create a File Systems repository (which would link to a folder on your or some other server), upload the image(s) to an FTP, and use the File Picker to insert the image each time.

Your IT person needs to create a read/write folder somewhere else that you or anyone else can access (who is allowed access is determined by you or your computer guy/gal, that is). The moodle admin has to then enable the File Systems repository, and create an instance of the File Systems repository that links to the folder that lives elsewhere (could be same server, could be remote, could be anywhere). If you have newer versions of Windows you can put a folder on your computer (on your desktop, for instance) that will FTP your files to the server. I'm not sure if students can see that file system repository when they're using the File Picker to insert images.

C.) Use External Repositories like Google Docs or Flickr, and use the File Picker to insert the image each time.

Admin can turn these on or off. Who can access those is up to the settings there, not Moodle -- so a Google Docs folder that anyone can access and upload images to, or is just shared with the students, has some measure of access control, but it's independent of Moodle. I'm not sure if students can see external repositories when they're using the File Picker to insert images.

D.) Enable the Legacy Course Files repository and use the File Picker to insert the image each time.

On courses moved from 1.9, this should already be enabled. An admin needs to enable it otherwise. Same last sentence as B and C.

E.) Create a Folder resource on the main course page and upload the images there, then copy and paste the shortcut each time you want to insert the image. Folder resources must be visible to the student in order for the link to work, I believe.

I don't believe students can upload files to Folder resources. Teachers can create them and upload files and delete files. Students can link to them if they want."

Thanks a lot,

Glenys

Bonsoir Cyril,

Je mettrai une explication et un lien dans une étiquette, un bloc, un forum... :

Pour ouvrir les documents PDF, si vous ne l'avez pas déjà, il faut télécharger et installer Acrobat Reader. C'est gratuit et facile à faire. Cliquez ici: Télécharger Acrobat Reader.

Cheers,

Glenys