1. In activities like the journal, on the moodle/mod/X/view.php?id=X page, the instructor gets a chance to create an instance of the activity. When the teacher views this page in the wiki, can he or she have a chance to create one, too?
2. I like the "Other wikis" pull down menu on the top of the page, but imagine that it should be "View Student Wikis" if you want it to be like the other modules. Also, the pull-down menu just needs to list the student names -- not the names of the wikis themselves. (Also, for the instructor, you could probably lose the name that appears to the left of the drop-down menu).
3. I admit to being confused a little by the idea of naming the first page of a various wiki. I understand that it needs a name, but wonder if it could be more transparent. As a student or teacher, the primary goal is to write. Naming will be confusing to most students and teachers unfamiliar with wikis. If this comment is unclear, I'd be happy to try to sort it out in future posts.
Thanks again for working on this really, really important element of Moodle.
Also on 2), it could be either for a user or group...
Mike, what do you think about 3), the naming of the first page. I saw a bug you were discussing this issue..?
At one point, we were using the wiki name as the first page name. I forget why we changed it? Was there a reason you needed a default first page name in the language file?
The way I see it working is that the default first page name will be the wiki name unless you override it by specifying a page name. Does this seem okay to you?
If there is no default content, there is no problem.
I think we need to mention this in the help file for the "pagename".
What do you think about this:
Default-Initial content: "Erfurtwiki", but then I suggest to have the "wikiindex" language-string as default already written into the "pagename" field.
Default-Initial content: "Empty", with an empty "pagename" field.
Please do whatever solution you think makes more sense.
Maybe we need to re-think the concept of initial content. The initial content we have now basically corresponds to wiki help files, correct?
I think a lot of people will have difficulty using this system - storing initial content in the language/help/wiki/initialcontent directory. And, since we've allowed teachers to create initial student content directly, it may not be necessary any more.
Perhaps we should have the current initial content (the help stuff), always available as wiki pages in every wiki. Then the index page of the help wikis can be defined in the language files.
When a teacher creates a wiki, the initial page name becomes the wiki name, or the page name if specified. It has initial content if specified. Otherwise its empty.
I can also add another table column that would specify the default wiki text to put into the wiki when its created, that the teacher could specify when they create the wiki.
Can you think of a way to make the default erfurtwiki content always available? Perhaps by putting in course zero (the site level)?
Oh no!! Please keep the choosable initial content. We need it for studentportfolio's and then it is very handy to have different start-sets for different schooltypes/acadamic studystreams just as dropdown choices. (Filling these sets is a long discussion between all teachers and professsors. Placing at the end of the discussion the final set in the wiki-dirs is in comparison with that debte childs play :
(Such a startset could have pages like: "on this page you have to deliver proof of your presentation skills by... etc..)
Hi Ger -
We have to remove it. The way it works right now is just not manageable.
We will replace it with an 'import pages' function fairly soon. Make sure you keep whatever set of initial pages you've already created safe, so you can import them when that function works.
Import/export, sounds OK to me.
Just for a check: If I create a button with the settings "personal wiki" for each student, I have only to import the pages once, and not for each student separate?
Hi Ger -
I just updated the initial content handling. You can now upload your initial wiki content into the course file area for that course. Use a separate directory for every separate wiki activity.
You can upload and select a specific file for the index page, and the rest of the pages in that directory will be loaded into every student's wiki when they create it.
If you don't use a default content directory, the wiki is created empty.
If you have wikis that have been defined but not yet created by students, you will need to update those instances with this new method.