Does anyone have the answers to these three questions?
1. How do I show ALL gradeable activities? Currently, I only see them if at least one student has a grade.
2. How do I assign a gradeable activity to a category?
3. How do I add more categories? I see one by default, and I can edit it, but I can't figure out how to add more.
Thanks for any answers!
Matt
2. and 3. You need to use the "edit category" interface. At the top left of the grader report, there is a "View" drop-down menu. At the bottom of this menu is a heading called "Edit", which has 3 options. The first of these is "Categories and Items". This will take you to an interface showing all your items and categories in a tree format, with buttons for moving them around, deleting categories or creating new categories and items. It's designed to be rather user-friendly and to follow the type of interface found elsewhere in Moodle.
I hope this helps
Here's what I'm observing on #1 -
If I build the course in 1.9, then all proceeds correctly.
However, I took a course from 1.8 and backed it up, and then restored it into 1.9. The course has an assignment, two quizzes, a rated glossary and a rated forum, none of which show up in the gradebook.
If I update the item (click update and then save, don't have to actually change anything), then it will show up. If I go to an item and grade anything, that item will show up.
To me, it appears that activities aren't being put in the gradebook during the restore process.
I haven't checked this yet on a test site upgrade, but will do so later this week.
Thanks,
Matt
Matt
The previous Tab interface (we use gradebook version 2 mod) loads more quickly, is easier to navigate, and it is much smoother overall.
I do appreciate the addition of the new reports, but that is where it ends. I could go into a laundry list but it is basically slower for all items, clunkier, and less intuitive. If I find it that way, my teachers would kill me if I made this upgrade.
Once this phase of development is over, and the gradebook is usable by all, we can focus on improving the interface by adding an AJAX layer, which will speed things up considerably and make the interface much more intuitive. For example, quick grading will be replaced by a system in which clicking on a grade will turn it into a form element, letting you change it, and as soon as you click out of it, the grade will be updated in the database, without the need for a page reload.
That being said, thanks for the feedback, and please keep it coming
I'm wondering if the new gradebook will allow teachers to put in assignments in the gradebook, even though there is not a corresponding activity that shows up in the course. For example, if I want to give a grade for participation, or something outside class, or etc. and just need a column in the gradebook to put in a grade. Is that already possible or in the works?
thanks,
clark
We sent our new gradebook to Chris Roy yesterday for deployment (in addition to a boatload of other code). Can you please look the gradebook plugins as well as the anonymous administrative block (needed to make simple grader work) over and put them into the contrib section if you can. We are more than happy to maintain the system as we have to for our instructors anyway.
We are currently adding a GBV2-like (create and assign items/categories) screen that augments our simple tree. It should be done next week sometime.
We also hope to get a few conditional changes (checks to see if our gradebook exists before altering core behavior) made to core so users do not have to edit 2 files (6 lines total) to use our gradebook.
Any idea when this might go public? I have to make a decision in the next couple of weeks whether I need to revert to 1.8. From what you've said, "Simple Grader" will make 1.9 usable for sites that need extra credit support, but I don't want to start the term with the current 1.9 grader. Once the term is started I'm stuck, and I'm not willing to go through another term with the stock 1.9 grader.
Thanks!
Just be aware that this release of the gradebook is focused almost entirely on functionality. There is no dependency on Javascript, and consequently, no AJAX layer. This means that every action requires a page reload. The reason for this is accessibility.
Not being able to drag-and-drop items on the "Edit categories and items" page makes me want to break something. Due to Outcomes, I've got hundreds of gradebook items in some courses and they need to be placed in categories, but doing so would take DAYS.
I'm so frustrated that I looked at trying to hack it myself, but I'm not really sure where to start.
Besides, it's much, much (MUCH) easier to code the second solution than the AJAX drag and drop layer. I've had a go at writing this drag n drop, and it is an absolute nightmare. There are very few (if any) working examples of infinitely recursing tree AJAX drag n drops on the Web. It looks simple, but it's not at all ;)
I ended up "resolving" the issue with a long series of queries directly to the database. It works on the surface, but I always get nervous approaching things this way since I have no idea what underpinnings I may be missing.
I know for a fact that my sortorder column is all out-of-whack now, but with it all displays okay on the page, so hopefully there won't be any long term negatives.