Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Séverin Terrier -
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Yes, it works very good, even with spaces, thanks smile

You're better than me to find this solution.

The last things that would be very cool (and more clean i think) would be :
  • to show the sentence and the link to the english page only if it exists wink
  • to dynamically change the name for capabilities (by a subst) from the langage form to the english form (Capacités/moodle/role:manage in french to Capabilities/moodle/role:manage)
But i didn't succeed in my tests with all the mediawiki syntax to achieve that sad

Going in holidays tomorrow, so i won't be able to help for that before a while...
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Séverin Terrier -
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Is seems that nobody found a solution for my two last suggestions...
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by koen roggemans -
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It should be reported as a bug. If you look closely, only the first part of the url is translated. If that is not translated any more, the problem is solved.
e.g.
http://docs.moodle.org/nl/Mogelijkheden/moodle/site:doanything
http://docs.moodle.org/nl/Mogelijkheden/moodle/site:readallmessages

should be
http://docs.moodle.org/nl/Capabilities/moodle/site:doanything
http://docs.moodle.org/nl/Capabilities/moodle/site:readallmessages
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Séverin Terrier -
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That would be a solution...

I would then have to :
  • rename all existing pages allready created in french, with "Capacités", to replace it with "Cababilities".
  • modify all french links to these pages from english pages
  • modify all links to these pages, from all french documentation pages about roles and capabilities...
Not sure it's really the simplest solution... but it would really be the same in all languages.
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Helen Foster -
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Hi Séverin,

One of the nice features of MediaWiki is the ability to easily change page names.

As an admin, you can use the Move tab to move a page e.g. Capacités/mod/assignment:view to a new title - Capacities/mod/assignment:view. As well as renaming the page, this also creates a redirect.

Hopefully it's not too much work... wink I'm in agreement with Koen that this should be reported as a bug in order to fix the problem.
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Séverin Terrier -
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Hi Helen,

yes, i allready know this feature, to rename pages (but i would better rename to Capabilities/mod/assignment:view wink ).

Is there a solution in mediawiki to make a search/replace in several articles, if i want to modify links to the real new name (and delete old names) ?

I let you create the bug (i'm not very confident with that), and will do all the modifications when it will be "corrected" (in Moodle 1.6 to 1.9)...
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Helen Foster -
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Hi Séverin,

I've reported the issue - it's MDL-11687.

Re. modifying links to the new name, I think the easiest solution is to keep the redirect pages (perhaps there are moodle.org forum discussions linking to them) and fix any double redirects using http://docs.moodle.org/fr/Special:DoubleRedirects.
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Séverin Terrier -
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Hi Helen,

thanks for the issue, voted for it.

You're right, it's probably better to keep the old page names, cause i've certainly made posts in forums with links to these pages...

I allready take a look at double redirect, broken links and other pages like that in MoodleDocs from time to time wink

There's still my over suggestion, in this discussion...
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Helen Foster -
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Séverin, why am I telling you about MediaWiki features? Both you and Nicolas are experts!

Anyway, hopefully others can benefit from reading our discussion. smile
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Re: Moodle documentation: Is there a way to redirect to an English doc page?

by Séverin Terrier -
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One part of my suggestions is near to be fixed in the other branch of this discussion, but there's still this one :
showing the sentence and the link to the english page only if the english page exists clin d’oeil

Because, when you take direct links automatically made by Moodle, most of the time, the english page exists, so, there's no problem. But there's perhaps some pages that still doesn't exist, even in english.

But, mostly, when you create from a page a link to a page in a not english language, and don't create that new page, the equivalent english page name (for example "en:Paramètres") has no sense, because it's a word or a true sentence, in another langage pensif
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