What's wrong when guest-login can go into protected courses ??
In course administration page course is closed for visitors and protected with pasword. No enrollment allowed ..... And still guest jump in !!!!!
It's not good !!!
From where inherited access is comming from ???
I just visited your site. Nice site. It seems that is allowed only to view the courses as a guest. Answering to discussions was not possible. Maybe this helps: Go to Site Administration > Permissions > Define roles > vieras > (click edit) > View courses > choose prohibit.
Normally the settings are :
Is that what you have?
I tried with those settings you wrote and problem is:
now guest can't go inside information bays ( courses that contains text, cms-stuff, links etc. ). If I open autologinguest then restricted courses are open for guest...
I'm a little bit tired about this kind of problem ... because I've worked to fix cms-system problems several days ... and late last night I found that stupid access problem.
I don't know ... I really don't know ... what I've done ... but suddenly everything look like to work.
And now back to hacking cms-module .....
That aside, why can't I see online students any more, only tutors show up in my "last 30 mins" box godammit
>>Remember the price you paid for moodle and the fact
>>that all of the many hard working coders who fix these
>>things for you do it for free.
I know ... I'm one of them ... now I am hacking and try fix problems of compability between cms-module and mdl_1.7+ ... trying to put it work ... my site needs it and Janne have not made upgrade yet !!!
I'm not at all impressed to find email with this sort of language in my inbox and I'm pretty certain that new visitors to this site and these forums will be equally dismayed to find discussions introduced in this way.
We all have frustrations with technology from time to time, even with Moodle. For my part I feel it would be more constructive and appropriate if future discussions on this (and other topics) could be constructed with language which is more appropriate.
I disagree completely with your answer Ray,
Moodle is free as in "freedom to organise your own mess".
Offering a complete open source and the legal right to change anything is an open invitation for (re)actions like this.
Commercial companies fight this problem with several weapons:
- encrypting the code so you cannot change anything (not for Moodle)
- only offering support for a small core-set (like the Moodle .zip)
- warning for the danger of additonal modules/blocks and patches made by others (not for Moodle: we organise a plugin archive, but we all realise that you - even with Moodle - must use your own common sense.)
- not giving the user the right to change anything (we have GNU)
- asking people not to complain in the open forums, but send that kind of messages by privat email to the company (not for Moodle, and it should stay that way! It is the best way to keep the answers also public)
- not offering open forums (we do AND we as community can handle that)
- not offering forums at all (you know these companies.. )
By the way, do you offer open forums as Moodle partner to your own clients? ..so a potential client can get an impression before he hires you?)
- only telling the positiv stories.. ("Slow performances with our product like you have with Moodle? No sir, never heard of!!..")
The forums of Moodle are 100% open and free.
After weeks of fighting - yes, self organised messy - troubles, you want to cry - at least once - in the arms of your real friends: the Moodle community.
I recognise that!! Most of the time they help, sometimes they don't. (or cannot? ...like the never answered question how to remove ALL the information of graduated students?)
Maybe you should email this peron in privat, help him and then let him proudly announce the free help offered by you as his fellow Moodle-man. He could become a new customer for you. (end of commercial break for a good Moodle partner.)
If we start to hide the bad side of Moodle - yes there is: to give an example: on monday 50 students do at the same moment a test, nothing wrong, same test 50 students on wednesday: a disaster! is it Moodle? Apache, MySQL, an other application on the same server - then we invite badly informed people to try Moodle for a year or so, organising their own dirt, ending up as the willing victim of a commercial guy (with an inviting longterm contract).
If the same person likes the concept of Moodle AND he reads in the forums that not anything goes always well and can make people make mad, then he can - well informed - choose from several options:
- believe the commercial guys that their product does not suffer any flaws, and then bring them to court for not telling the (whole) truth
- reading all the Moodle forums and making a survival plan, facing the self organised problems as a real Moodle-man.
- hiring a Moodle partner, let him write the plan.. and blame him when something goes wrong.
In summary: Moodle is a powerful beast, not ment for sissies.
I think the problem Ray referred to was the profanity, not the general content of the message. When the profanity is part of the subject line, it gets repeated every time there is a post! It is part of the rss feeds that are pulled, it is part of every message in your inbox if you don't use digest (subject is prominent even though you may hide/turn off the message pane), etc. I certainly would have preferred that the, shall we say, "colorful expression of extreme frustration" was part of the text rather than the subject line. I think some of the tech forums get pretty rough, and I wince at the language!
My humble opinion only, (and I did not ask Ray for clarification)
You are rigth, I missed that point. (So, quick reading all these messages in the forums is not always the best startegy...)
..mmm two wrong answers from me and I cannot delete them anymore.
"Moodle is a powerful beast, not meant for sissies".
That resonates with me!
How about a new brand -
- not meant for sissies
(perhaps with a really tough cow, sneering ...)
I live in the real Moodle world (as you do). I will promote Moodle to anyone who will listen, however, I don't try to pretend that Moodle is perfect. In the consulting work that I do in my Moodle Partner business I would soon lose credibility if I presented Moodle as perfect in every respect.
In my view the raising of shortcomings, bugs, deployment issues, frustrations etc. in these forums is a key component of what makes Moodle what it is. Everything is open. I like that, it makes it even easier for me to have a completely transparent relationship with my clients. I also like that because airing views, suggestions, issues etc. here and in the Tracker helps us all move Moodle on to greater things.
My plea was simply for civility in the discussions here.
Sorry Ray, I was reading your post to quick, another Moodler wrote that and he was right: I was wrong. So my excuses.
- Commercial people DO sell their product as the perfect solution for a school. (look close!! they say not that they have the perfect product but the perfect solution !!)
- We are often honoust about Moodle: "Someone told Martin that people dare not to choose Moodle after visiting one of my presentations "
- we see often people crying for help in the forums, starting with help,HELP HELP!!!@$#@ and ending with messages like: "is anybody there?" .... every Moodler must recognise that, so alittle compasion?
Ger: ......, another Moodler wrote that and he was .......
Perhaps it was she (on the lighter side).
How do you know that? I cannot see that in the profile: it seems to be a kind of pacman.
..and Lasse: hurry up, I need that CMS for 1.7 badly! (fingers crossed)
P.S. By the way, can you also repair the project format for courses, it is also broken under 1.7
Thank's for support ! Community is our place for crying and laugh ...
I've made some patches for cms. Look soltion at cms-forum. My site is running now with those modifications.
Agree... Not just all work, but some play as well
Actually the thought has been there from time to time...
I've just not been angry enough to write it.
Don't hold it back, go for the unnecessary sometimes also
- Mom: What did dad say when you told him you scratched the car?
- Son: Should I leave out the bad language?
- Mom: Yes
- Son: Nothing
I had a very good time reading you
through thoughts to laugh. This thread
should be created on stage to illustrate
community constructive concern.