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Student File Storage Area?

 
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Student File Storage Area?
 
Is there a way to setup file storage areas for students?  The idea is to have a place to put work in progress.  
 
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Art Lader
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You could use the database module for that. There are other possibilities, of course.

-- Art

 
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Picture of Dan Stowell
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Or try the My Files block. Not sure if it works in 1.6 though - I don't use it myself.
 
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Picture of Rob Saul
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Thanks for the suggestions.  Looks like I have some reading to do to understand how to get this set up.

    ~Rob
 
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Art Lader
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> Or try the My Files block. Not
> sure if it works in 1.6 though -
> I don't use it myself.

I cannot get it to install for 1.6.1+

-- Art
 
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Picture of Rob Saul
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Earlier I was reading a thread about that in the Repositories forum.  Apparently one has to make some modifications.

Thread is here :
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=43776
 
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Picture of Rob Saul
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I managed to get the 'My Files' / File Manager block installed in a test instance of moodle. 

Two things reguired :

1) the backen database is MySQL
2) the file that sets up stuff in the database needs to be modified as per the thread in the Repositories forum.
 
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Picture of Rob Saul
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Hey Art,

Could you post pointer(s) to ref(s) regarding how to do this with the database module?

 
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Art Lader
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Hi, Rob,

This is what I did. (Prepare to be underwhelmed.)
  1. Created an instance of the mod that allows teachers and students to upload.
  2. Created a date field, a student name field and a text area field for comments about the files.
  3. Created multiple fields for file uploads.
  4. Tweaked the templates a tiny bit.
  5. Viola! Instant file repository.
Of course, this is a very simple, unsophisticated affair, but it is actually working quite well so far.

Hope that helps,
Art
 
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Picture of Thomas Hawkins
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As far as I can tell, that doesn't allow students to have their own private space or does it?
 
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Art Lader
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No, the way I have it set up is not private. You are right about that.

-- Art
 
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Picture of Chardelle Busch
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You might want to have a look at my new journal mod, it gives each student a place to add entries to their journal and each entry can have an attachment.  If you do not enable submitting/grading of entries, then it is completely private to each student.  If you want to use it only as storage (rather than as a reflective journal), then you could change the word Questions on the Questions tab to Instructions or something like that, and then add the intro text there--otherwise the Questions tab might seem out of place.
 
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Picture of Adma Lim
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Hi Art

I wonder why when I logged in as a student to view the database created with the methods you provided. But there is no [Add new entry] tag available. Which step were missing??

thanks
 
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Picture of Adma Lim
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The missing [Add new entry] is probably due to our own course setting, I have spoken to our System Admin & she would be working on it.Thanks Art for providing a gd creative use for the activity. Based on his idea, I made some changes to the layout to suit our school's needs, so here I am sharing it for the others.hope that would be helpful.

[Fields] Page
I have added a Number field for the students to enter their student number, a File field for the students to upload their file (One per time)

[View single] page
Here is what I have done to the template.
  • Display the file upload
  • Display student no.
  • Display Time added
  • Display Time modified & by ##User## (Time modified: Thursday, 26 February 2009, 01:50 pm by Calvin)
  • Remove the ##approve##
  • Lastly, click on Save template.
[View list] Page
  • Display the name of the student & File uploaded.
  • Display only the ##more## and ##delete##
  • Lastly, click on Save template.
[Preset Page]
Save it as template as preset, so that my other colleagues would be able to use, without having to design one on their own. Available site-wide,only author allowed to delete/edit it.
 
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Picture of Adma Lim
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In case you are wondering, how to identify who the original user who added the file, without adding a Text file to let the student input their own name. AFAIK, ##user## captured the name of the uploader. I have tried to save changes made to one of my dummy student's file, the ##user## did not display mine instead it remain as the dummy student's name.

Example:
Last modified on: Monday, 2 March 2009, 03:03 pm by Weili Choo


 
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Picture of Robert Brenstein
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##user## reports the owner of the database record, that is the name of person who created a given entry. At present, the database module does not keep track of who makes changes. It keeps track only of who created the entry, when, and when it was last changed.

In light of that, your "Display Time modified & by ##User##" above is wrong. You can have "Display Time created & by ##User##".
 
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Picture of Adma Lim
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thanks Robert. I have make the changes in the Databases for Database.

 
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paula
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Very nice, Adma.

Would you like to share in the Database of Database in the Moodle Exchange?  You can even upload the presets if you like.  You can get there by going to My Courses link at the top of the Moodle home page and go to all courses and click on the Moodle exchange.... or here's the link....http://moodle.org/course/view.php?id=15

Paula Clough cool

 
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Picture of Adma Lim
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Hi Paula!

It's now available in the Database of Database.

Thanks.

If i have a new idea (eg. using it as form for appointment) , i would post it there.
 
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paula
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Thanks so much for sharing!

Paula Clough cool

 
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Picture of Elizabeth Lewis
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The work around that I have is really low tech--I have an assignment that allows an uploaded file in each class.  It has no beginning or end date and students are allowed to resubmit.  I call it home/school transfer and each course has one.

As I said--very low tech, but it works! 

 
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Art Lader
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Hi, Elizabeth,

I would not call it simple. I would call it simply elegant. I like it.

Regards,
Art
 
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Picture of Dale Jones
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Hi Elizabeth;
This is similar to the method I used. For each formal assignment requiring an online hand-in, I created an informal and open-ended "Drop Box" assignment for transferring the files between home and school.

Then I realised that this was overkill - instead they can use the official assignment as the dropbox until the assignment closes, which has the advantage that I only need to look in one place to add comments and encouragement as their work progresses. The potential pitfall with this technique is that of over-writing a current version with a previous version, but this is overcome by teaching the students to have a strict version-numbering system on their files (it gave me a good starting point in a lesson anyway). This has the added advantage that they have multiple incremental backups of their work on (possibly) multiple dispersed machines (home, school and the current version on the Moodle server) - thus reducing the risk of total loss and allowing them to go back to any previous version. (This gave me another starting point, where we talked about backups and their value).

The dropboxes can still be used though, for files that aren't necessarily connected with the assignment. I often muse, though, about the necessity for pupils to have an online area where they can just store files under the umbrella of needing to transfer them home; surely a school needs to provide space for essential and relevant files rather than just any old thing (usually illegally-downloaded mp3s *sigh*).</2d's worth>

Hoping that helps.

Dale

 
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DebNRiley
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Great discussion. I realize this is several years old so wondering if any new options are now available in v1.9.5? We would really like to get something like a "drop box" or "student files" area. Thanks!
 
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Mary Cooch
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I am still liking the file sharing (file manager) block.
 
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DebNRiley
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That does sounds great and would be useful. I would also like a "private" space for the students to store their "stuff". Looked like the File Sharing block was public. Does it have settings to make it private? Thanks for the quick reply Mary!
 
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Mary Cooch
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I thought it was private unless they chose to "share" something?
 
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Picture of Adma Lim
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Me too. it would only be "public" when user A has choose to share an item with User B. Otherwise, it's a private area.
 
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DebNRiley
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Hi Mary - We just finally got around to installing the File Mgr block which we downloaded from here: Block: File Sharing
I like it and see a lot of potential but the "sharing" features do not seem to work correctly on our 1.9.5 test server. I enabled the option to share files with other course members but when I tested this and log on the sharing I get this huge list of students. It does not include all the students on our Moodle server but it is way beyond our class list. I sent all the sharing and security options to "no" thinking even if students could not share it would still be a handy place for students to store their files but that did not seem to have any affect on the students.

Curious if anyone is using this block on 1.9.5 and what settings you are using. I would really like to use it.

Thanks for your input!
 
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Picture of Paul Ganderton
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Hi Deb,

I was looking for something to do this the other week. I found e-portfolios offered something preivate with file storage. Of the 2 on Moodle, I preferred Exabis (http://docs.moodle.org/en/Exabis_e-portfolio_block) but this is just my opinion.

I haven't tested the block you mentioned (adding it to my increasingly large 'to-do' list!).

You could always use forums to store files but these are open.

Hope this helps,

Paul
 
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DebNRiley
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Thanks Paul. Exabis is also on my every growing "to do when the insanity ends list" tongueout Thanks for the reminder and recommendation!
 
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