"At long last, we are happy to announce the launch of the OpenAcademic project. This project is dedicated to integrating Elgg, Drupal, Moodle, and Mediawiki. All code developed under this project will be released back to the respective communities under an open source license, and it will be freely available to download and distribute."
"Contact the OpenAcademic team and we will talk through your requirements and come up with a custom solution to meet your needs and budget. OpenAcademic is all about flexible solutions that meet your needs."
There are no demo's of their integrations online so we will have to wait and see. I get the impression though that they will be selling their modifications as services to their clients. Which also suggests that their solutions won't be made abvailable to the Open Source Community
However this is all just assumptions on my part. I have been wrong in the past
Further investigation reveals a link http://www.funnymonkey.com/ can't see a cost to this, but there must be a 'catch' it look's too good to be true and generally things that look to good to be true, generally are.
apologies if i'm wrong................
After all, charging people for a hosted service or for consultancy is a far more 'respectable' business proposition than 'giving software away for free'.
If anyone wants a third party, no holds barred approval of the honesty of this project, consider it given. They are doing it the right way. cheers, dave.
Personally, I think that's a bit of an overstatement And no apologies needed.
FunnyMonkey is an open source shop working specifically with educational clients. Our newest project, as I discuss in this thread, is OpenAcademic, a partnership with the Elgg leads that arose out of conversations after this blog post.
You can get a sense of where my head is at on both educational and open source issues by reading through my elgg blog or my funnymonkey blog --
So i am wrong.............I'm man enough to admit it.
Many thanks Bill for your open and forthright response. I am a very junior member of the Moodle 'community' and am always looking for ways to increase my personal knowledge, and am also keen to provide as good a service as possible to my employers - a further education college in the UK. Not being a coder or programmer and with little knowledge of php, html etc. has distinct disadvantages in this field but anything that increases the functionality of Moodle is good news for me, is their anything i can test.
RE: "Which also suggests that their solutions won't be made abvailable to the Open Source Community" and "I have been wrong in the past" --
I'm happy to say that you are also wrong on this count
I'm the project lead for OpenAcademic, and one of the founders of FunnyMonkey, and we will donate the code from this project back to the open source community -- To quote from our site launch announcement - and Wen Hao also quotes this in his original post: "All code developed under this project will be released back to the respective communities under an open source license, and it will be freely available to download and distribute." -- we mean exactly that --
You can see the people involved with the project here -- Dave Tosh and Ben Werdmuller created Elgg, Misja Hoebe is active in the Elgg community, and Marc and I are active in the Drupal community.
We do offer custom development as a service, and we are finishing up the details to offer hosting for the OpenAcademic stack -- as David Scotson points out in this thread, offering services is a way of supporting development -- currently we are funding development out of our own pocket, or with client-driven development that aligns with our roadmap, or with money we bring in through various trainings we run.
We are working out the demos/the code that runs the integration -- as you might imagine, there are some details to be sorted out -- within the next few weeks, we look to have SSO enabled between Elgg, Moodle, Drupal, and Mediawiki -- it's currently working in alpha/beta status between Elgg and Drupal -- the OpenID module for Moodle is being developed, and the Mediawiki OpenID module is getting some attention this week at Wikimania, and we will test it out next week. We will be writing up progress on this as we develop the code --
We want to make this process as transparent as possible -- toward that end, we're building a dev site to guide the development, and support developers, and hold the roadmap, and point to the svn repository, etc --
Part of the reason we brought the site live early (ie, before we have a clean demo) is that we wanted to get the word out -- we see letting people know what we're doing as part of being transparent in our development.
Anyways -- I hope this helps answer some of your questions.
Thanks for the response. One thing I love/hate about forums is that many of us open our mouths way too early.
i am familiar with many of those projects (starting to look at Elgg as we speak) and it's great to see the angle you are coming from.
I see no issues at all in the selling of services..that is after all where the open source dollars are.I am just glad that you are also open with your code. I am sure you will have a very succesful business on your hands when you are full operational.
Have you thought of applying to be a Moodle Partner?