Firstly, is anyone else using the BKSB (Basic and KeySKILLBUILDER) initial assessment package at their college?
Secondly, has anyone attempted or are interested in integrating this so that results appear in Moodle?
As a college we have been tasked with this for our initial assessments in the upcoming academic year. Currently we convert the results into an Access database from which we can generate reports. The plan is to convert the results into a MySQL or SQL database and then develop a plugin for Moodle which will query this and display the results within Moodle.
I wanted to check we weren't reinventing the wheel here and also ask for any colleges that would be interested in collaborating at any level (ideas, wishlist, development, and/or testing) to get in contact. Basically we're trying to gauge whether this will be of general use of is just something we would be using ourselves.
We are also using BKSB, however we pump the results into our MIS system rather then moodle and display it on our student / tutor profile sheet. We use Capita's unit-e with columbus so we have all the key MIS information visible via a web frontend.
May I ask how you convert the data into an access database, I don't deal directly with the BKSB system - I get sent some pretty poorly structured csv files which I have to run a few queries on to get the right data into our student record system.
I wasn't involved in the Access project until the testing stage. From what I gather so far the CSV files are held on a temporary server and then batch updated overnight to an Access database - I'll try to get more info when I meet the staff responsible for it soon.
Our MIS web front-end is only available via the intranet and requires a second log on from Moodle. Rather than open up our other system we hope to make the information available via Moodle, which is already available on the internet. The other benefit for us is that MIS data and course information are available in the same place with a single login. Do you get single sign on for Moodle and MIS as creating an MIS front-end that then sits within Moodle is one of our options.
We hadn't fully implemented MySQL at the time as Moodle was still in its early stages of adoption. The MySQL linux server sits in a DMZ with a firewall between the BKSB server so we are looking at an ODBC link, which does not exist currently.
Access was the interim solution largely because we were a Microsoft organisation, and people were familiar with creating reports this way. Now we have successfully implemented Moodle things are viewed differently.
I have also found out that the BKSB feeds out table names that include spaces which caused havoc trying to feed into MySQL or possibly just MS SQL. We are looking into ways around this but any suggestions would be appreciated.
We also use BKSB in our college. I would love see a plugin for this in Moodle...
Do you have any thoughts on the best place for this information to sit?
Our current train of thought is to create an ILP (Individual Learning Plan) block (probably renamed) that would contain the information from BKSB and MIS. This can then be stickied to the My Moodle page and optionally placed at site and course level.
We are also looking at an ILP course format, and a seperate page linked from the administration/course menu block.
I would love to see both...
As BKSB is also asp at the moment I wonder if we can do a php version so it could sit inside a course.
Ideally we would like BKSB to feed into a MySQL database that is then displayed to the user through Moodle.
We already made the conversion to Access last summer so hopefully this year it will be MySQL - if we get that far it won't be much to insert the details anywhere in Moodle.
Will keep you posted on progress then if and when we make some.
I know that this is an old thread, but I’m a technical specialist and programmer at bksb (West Nottinghamshire College.)
We've not gone down the MySQL route (however if demand is high i may next year look into programming a PHP version which would use MySQL, dependant on other projects.)
We have now put the facility into out new totally re-written software which allows you to add parameters in moodle for Reference, FirstName and LastName, when passing all 3 details out system will create the learner and log them in automatically.
We have a online trial of the new software currently available, so if anyone would like a look at it then please dont hesitate to contact me: email@example.com
Key feature of the new version:
- Option to allow learners to create their own reference number
- Every question is saved after clicking next
- Errors.aspx page on all web platforms to view every error generated by the application (including page not found and so on)
- This helps diagnose any issues as learners will generally see a generic runtime error, this will now be logged to the SQL server with the learners name and machine name
- Active Directory information pulled into the login page.
- Turn off Anonymous Access in IIS to the virtual directory and turn on authentication, when user has entered computer login details their name will be entered and logged in automatically
- Saves a lot of time and keeps records unique
- Option for groups dropdown to be shown on front login page
- Lots of other features which can be found in the tutor and technical guides
We have 1 diagnostic assessment working on moodle as a SCORM object which is still being worked on as a side project.
For those interested, James, the OP, contacted us direct in July 2006 to assist his college with the implementation of bksb within their Moodle instance. ForSkills has been supplying bksb as 'bksbOnline' a fully hosted, supported and cost effective service for over two years now.
We provide full syndication services from our clients own VLEs, which include Moodle instances, to our own (client themed) Moodle instance, where they benefit from full learner tracking and automatic generation of e-ILPs which then provide a 'learning bridge' to the appropriate learning resources, which we also host.
The ForSkills' Moodle instance has over 200,000 registered learners and, on average, we serve up more than one new assessment every second!
For more information please visit our website www.forskills.co.uk or call/email me if you'd like to chat about your particular requirements.
Do you have anymore info on this. Has BSKS been sucesfull within Moodle, is it a link from Moodle to the Forskills website etc. I am looking into IA to use within our Moodle site.
We have hundreds of satisfied customers using the assessment resources. There's more information on our website www.forskills.co.uk. We provide syndication if a 'seamless' link is required. You can email me through firstname.lastname@example.org if you'd like to set up with a free trial.
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