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Assigning different due dates for different class sections

 
 
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Assigning different due dates for different class sections
 
I have a course with one section of students that meets on Tuesday and a different group of students that meets on Thursday.  The curriculum for the two groups is identical.  How can I set up assignment due dates so that the Tuesday group does not always have several days more than the Thursday group to get their assignments submitted?  Do I have to create two Moodle courses, identical to one another except for assignment availability and due dates?  Any guidance would be much appreciated.  --fred
 
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Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
 
This is my routine situation.

I don't bother to actually set up due dates for assignments in the software - makes it too difficult for the student with a legitimate excuse for lateness [appendicitis, virus ate my file, &c. ;^) ] to submit after that rigid date.  I insert the due date(s) in the name of the assignment, and in the assignment description, so that there is no missing it (at least it would not seem that it could be missed, but go figure ... )

I assign my 2 sections to 2 groups (Tues, Thurs) using the Groups function in course Settings.  When grading, I work on one Group at a time.  The date the assignment was submitted is stamped on the assignments grading page, so it is easy to identify a late assignment & assess it appropriately.
 
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Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
 

I know this thread is a few years old, however I am just starting up with moodle and am in the same situation described above.  Is it still impossible to set hard deadline dates for the same activity for different groups?

I also have different classes following the same course, but in a different order.  So we have four blocks of Physics (Forces, Light, Circuits, Space), one class might teach; forces, light, circuits and space, whilst another might go Light, Circuits, Space and Forces.  Do I need to create separate course for each pathway and then copy all the course worksheets/homework etc from one group to another?

 
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Need the same functionality, where different groups are doing exatly the same course over slightly different dates. It is important they be able to access the same course forum etc. but have different deadlines for their assignments.

Would also like somehow set an exam date per group to be listed in the same way in their MyMoodle course profile listing

Am using 2.0, would it be feasable to build a plugin for this?

 

Thanks

 
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Picture of Katerina Nemcova
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Hi,

Has anyone found a solution to this? I am in the same situation, with several groups starting at different stages but all taking one specific assignment at some point.

The groups/grouping functionality doesn't allow me to set a different deadline for a different group.

Any advice/help please would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

 
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Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
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But the groups/grouping allows you to hide an assignment from not group members and so if you create a designated assignment for each group you can use the groups/grouping for showing each group only the group's designated assignment. The only problem with this approach (on top of the extra work for duplicating the assignments) is that the gradebook does not recognize grouping and so all the instances will appear in the grade report of the students.

In Moodle 2 you should be able to set different deadlines for different groups.

smile

 
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Thanks  Itamar- the additional problem with this approach is that we have several cohorts on the same course being just 1 month or so apart from each other, and creating designated assignments (total of 15 per course) for each cohort (e.g. Cohort 1 assignment number 4) tends to confuse tutors and then they mark different work. Strange, I know, but we need to make this as simple as possible for our teachers.

I'm planning to upgrade to Moodle 2 as soon as possible (still working on developing a new template), so hopefully this will sort out the problem. I was just wondering if there is a simple solution in Moodle 1.9, but it looks liek there isn't. Thanks anyway

Katerina

 
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Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
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Mary Cooch @moodlefairy just did a vid on this subject at YouTube. How to copy resources in 2.1 http://www.youtube.com/user/UsingMoodle#p/u/0/rV4_Z-hNMoc

 
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Hi,

I have the same problem in version 2.8. The grade book does not really recognize grouping and so all the instances will appear in the grade report of the students. Conditions (instances) for completion of the course is problematic too. How to select activities for completion when I work with groups/grouping? That's a pity, developers haven't solved this yet!

 
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Picture of Hartmut Scherer
Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
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Hi Zdeněk,

In Moodle 2.8 you have more options to restrict access to an activity. You can use profile fields or custom profile fields. Make sure that the fields are locked so that a user cannot edit them (Site Administration > Plugins > Authentication > Email-based-self-registration (block the fields in all authentication methods that you use). 

I restricted a test activity by first name (profile field). Of course you can nest restrictions, e.g., First name and Surname. Then the user will only see the activity that he/she is allowed to see in the main course page and in the user report of the grade book. 

The problem with the course completion could be solved with a final activity for all users which they only see after they have finished their last restricted activity. Then you can select this final activity for your completion setting of the course. 

With kind regards,

Hartmut

 
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Picture of Zdeněk Pucholt
Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
 

Hi,
thank you for your response, but I have some comments. My problem is not focused on hiding any activities for people who are not in a group or in another - that's solved. But problems are with the grade book!


Comment #1
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If I open the grade book and select ONLY ONE group I see ALL activities in the course, although some of them are not for this group! This problem has not been solved so far! Why?

Another problem is with the range of grades (range for the categories or the whole course). This is calculated for ALL activities in the course, NOT only for private group acitivites.

Example: Students can see the range of the total course grade e.g. 100 points, but the maximum is 20 points - because I have five groups and activities are set for each group!

home assignment #1 for group #1 - max 20 points
home assignment #1 for group #2 - max 20 points
home assignment #1 for group #3 - max 20 points
home assignment #1 for group #4 - max 20 points
home assignment #1 for group #5 - max 20 points


=> Curently, the range of grade for this acitivity is for one student 100 points instead 20 points. Of course I can switch off the range, but it's not solution! The aggregation without none-zero activites doesn't help too...


Comment #2
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When students want to see their progress in the course, I want to set activities in the completion conditions. So, in previous example, how to select completion conditions, because I see all five acitivies!?
My opinion is, that is IMPOSSIBLE to set completion settings for the course where the groups are. Why it has not been solved so far?!


Comment #3
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Why don't the developers use the same settings for the assignments which are used for the quizes? There could be set individual deadlines for each student, for groups and other combinations. Currently, I can set the home assignment only for grouping (in previous releases).

Of course, I can hide some acitivies for groups (in Moodle 2.8), but the grade IS CALCULATED in the grade report for ALL students - it's not solution too.


Thanks for any ideas, how to solve it smile
Zdeněk

 
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Re: Assigning different due dates for different class sections
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Use your own formula in the Gradebook - do not rely on the built-in aggregation methods. 

You (= Teacher) will still all the activities in the gradebook (why not name them so you quickly see in the gradebook that they are for a particular group only?), but the students will only see what they should - IF in the restrict access settings you choose to make that activity invsible from course page and from the gradebook when the restrictions apply. See if this will work for you

Conditional completions tracking - I believe, you can set "and" and "or" options in the newest moodle - see "Restriction set" in "Restrict access" settings.  This plus group settings could force completion tracking to behave better. I haven't tested this for myself yet.

HTH

 
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