The new scrollbar is too narrow

The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Dominique Bauer -
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The new scrollbar is stylish but, being too narrow, it is not accessible. ၀မ်းနည်း
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Dominique Bauer ထံသို့ အကြောင်းပြန်ရာတွင်

Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Nathan Lind -
Is this issue in Moodle 4.0? Have a screenshot to show?
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Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Dominique Bauer -

Yes, Moodle 4.0.

The screenshots below were taken on a 24" monitor at 1902 x 1200 resolution, Windows 7*.

Google.com, Facebook.com, Wikipedia.com, Amazon.com, Instagram.com, etc. use the the browser standard scrollbar which looks like this on Firefox:


YouTube uses the standard scroolbar but has reversed the darkness of the color, which is nice:


Moodle 4.0 uses a dark but too narrow bar:


On Chrome, the bar gets even narrower:


Today, Google.com, YouTube.com, Facebook.com, Wikipedia.com, Amazon.com and Instagram.com combined have over 170 billion visits per month. They all use the standard browser scrollbar, which users know and expect. If Moodle really wants to implement a custom scrollbar, it should be designed more accessible than the standard one, not less. ပြုံး

* Market share worldwide as of Jan 2022. Win10: 81%, Win7: 12%, Win8: 3%. Win11: 2.4%.

Dominique Bauer ထံသို့ အကြောင်းပြန်ရာတွင်

Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Przemek Kaszubski -
I second that request strongly. Just installed the latest Moodle 4 dev (4.0dev+ (Build: 20220208) locally yesterday and that strip of a scrollbar really IS too narrow.
Using latest Firefox on Windows 10, Boost theme.


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Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Nathan Lind -
Agreed, we will need a wider scroll bar.
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Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Przemek Kaszubski -
One other thing - the cursor. Perhaps it is against the current WWW specs / recommendations, but I was wondering if a change of the cursor from the default arrow to, say, the grabbing hand, once it hovers over the scroll bar could not help the user to more quickly operate the scroll bar - especially if it were to remain this thin..
https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/playit.asp?filename=playcss_cursor&preval=grabbing
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Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Ross Lovell -
I might be in the minority but I'm fine with the width of the scroll bar. I work primarily on a Mac with Safari and the scroll bar is slightly wider than than Safari's default width. The standard sizes shown for the scroll bars in Firefox look too wide to me.
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Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Przemek Kaszubski -
On reflection, not being an expert in this, all I can say is that considerable effort has been put by the HQ into the scrollbar redesign, and I'm prepared to trust the decisions made:
Cf.
https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-72877
and
https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-72456 .
Przemek Kaszubski ထံသို့ အကြောင်းပြန်ရာတွင်

Re: The new scrollbar is too narrow

by Bob Gilmore -
It's very easy to adjust too. The following CSS overrides should set it back to browser defaults:

#page.drawers, .drawercontent { scrollbar-width: inherit; }