I'm thinking now that the possibility of having a space for comments next to a wiki can benefit the wiki module itself. Many times I'm reviewing a wiki made by a group of students or individual students and I don't have any other alternative than either insert the comments within the text itself (ugly and unconfortable) or write e-mail messages or use the messenger. Not really ideal since you would want to have the comments next to the passages you are commenting on.
What do you people think?
Well, I'd say the real spirit of Wiki is really innovation not preservation of "old" spirits! What you say sounds rather conservative to me, Ger .
If it was like this in the past perhaps it was because that's the only thing you could do. And certainly it doesn't mean that it cannot be improved. I certainly find in-line comments ugly, confusing and impractical. Think of situations where the comments are many and they are accompanied by lots of modifications of the text. It can get to be pretty messy. And also a lot of extra work (and I'm sure unwelcome) for the poor student having to delete all of those intrusive in-line comments .
Of course I see this as an optional feature much in the spirit of the additional, selectionable functions added by the dfwiki people in the form of blocks. Besides, the wiki can always be presented to the world without the comments. That is technically doable. Adding functionality is adding choices, not imposing or changing anything that is basic to a wiki.
That hurts, calling the good old spirit of wiki old. It is more a fear for overkill of to specific options in dfWIKI and back to KISS when possible, but you are right: let the users select from the long list of options and let the default for all these options stay dimmed/off (like it is now).
In good old Swiki I had a nice way of giving room for inline comments: just placing + on the left side of the page in edit mode and you created a commentbox in secure/locked view mode where visitores could place comments. There was also an automatic email to the owner of that page (the person(s) who filled the emailfield on the bottom of a page email,) when somenone placed a comment on one of your (many) pages..
Students did not like the inline comments in Swiki, so if they could they weeped them and forgot.. your blocks are always in their face.. (maybe by default show it as a closed block?)
There was in Swiki also a trick like +- or so (i forgot) to send all the comments to a daughter page instead of showing them inline.
And you know me, I did sent - more then once - these wishes to the makers of dfWiki, they beg for that
The good old spirit of wiki might be good but you must admit it is also old
I have allready developed this
It will be available soon in the next dfwiki release.
So, how will this work? Who will have access to the "discussion" space? The user and the teacher, only the user, only the teacher? Groups?
this options will have to be plaed in a HUGE access control list in the wiki creation screen. Rigth now I'm focussed in creating functionalities, will be time to lock them up ;)