Dag Allemaal,
I'm quite new with H5P and a bit dissapointed with my first experiences.
Because it seems that it is not possible to insert sound and/or pictures between the sentences of a text in the exercises.
I'm a language teacher and very often I want one picture and one picture plus sound together. (it's the base of digital language teaching after all) but as far as I can see, that is not possible with H5P quizzes. z9 nor with Moodle quizzes)
I hope I overlook buttons, selections or so, or is this indeed not possible?
Does anybody here know?
Hgv, Henny Jellema
Hi Henny Jellema,
It is quite possible to insert sound and pictures in most of the H5P activities or the Moodle quiz/questions.
This is the forum for using H5P inside Moodle. If you have specific questions regarding H5P I suggest posting to their own forum at https://h5p.org/forum
If you have specific questions about the Moodle quiz/questions, you can post them to the relevant Moodle forum at https://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=737
Your post here is too vague. Please remember to ask specific questions, mention the exact type of question or H5P activity you want to use, what exactly you want to do with images or audio, etc.
I used to be a language teacher, and I've almost always found Moodle (and, more recently H5P) useful for my teaching needs.
Best,
Joseph
PS.- If your problem is specifically with the impossibility to insert audio/images in the H5P "Mark the words" activity, then I suggest you use the Moodle question type "Wordselect" instead. It's a contributed plugin, you'll have to install it from the plugins bank here: https://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?id=1701
Dag Joseph,
Thank you for your reply.
The thing is that I started with word-select. But there I got the same problem. Plus, that as far as I can see word-select has a nasty bug. (nobody seems to bother about that)
I posted my problem at https://h5p.org/forum ánd at https://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=737, but did not get any reaction. Leave alone some help.
I'm rather experienced with Hot Potatoes. ( https://static.digischool.nl/oefenen/hennyjellema/digischool.index.htm) and probably spoiled by always getting a very helpful reply within 24 hours. And Hot Potatoes has these very many good and creative features for sounds and pictures.
There is a Hot Pot plugin in Moodle and a nice friendly forum with Gordon Bateson, which I frequently look at.
But the Hot Potatoes modification for a word-select exercise is not (yet??) accepted by Moodle.
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Hgv, Henny
Thank you for your reply.
The thing is that I started with word-select. But there I got the same problem. Plus, that as far as I can see word-select has a nasty bug. (nobody seems to bother about that)
I posted my problem at https://h5p.org/forum ánd at https://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=737, but did not get any reaction. Leave alone some help.
I'm rather experienced with Hot Potatoes. ( https://static.digischool.nl/oefenen/hennyjellema/digischool.index.htm) and probably spoiled by always getting a very helpful reply within 24 hours. And Hot Potatoes has these very many good and creative features for sounds and pictures.
There is a Hot Pot plugin in Moodle and a nice friendly forum with Gordon Bateson, which I frequently look at.
But the Hot Potatoes modification for a word-select exercise is not (yet??) accepted by Moodle.
Hgv, Henny
Hi Henny,
I see you have posted many posts to the Hot Potatoes forum. I have used HP a lot in the past and found it extremely useful, especially for teaching languages. And here on Moodle our friend Gordon is indeed very helpful.
I have not heard of that "nasty bug" in WordSelect. Could you please in your reply give the exact link to your posts both on the H5P forum and the Moodle forum so I can have a look?
Thanks,
Joseph
I see you have posted many posts to the Hot Potatoes forum. I have used HP a lot in the past and found it extremely useful, especially for teaching languages. And here on Moodle our friend Gordon is indeed very helpful.
I have not heard of that "nasty bug" in WordSelect. Could you please in your reply give the exact link to your posts both on the H5P forum and the Moodle forum so I can have a look?
Thanks,
Joseph
Dag Joseph,
It is very nice of you to offer some time to give attention to my word-select problem.
I wonder if I can send you a few screenshots to show you what happens when I have made a word-select exercise. It come down to the fact, that the words are not consequently selected.
Mvg, Henny
It is very nice of you to offer some time to give attention to my word-select problem.
I wonder if I can send you a few screenshots to show you what happens when I have made a word-select exercise. It come down to the fact, that the words are not consequently selected.
Mvg, Henny
Yes, that would help. You can post your screenshots in your reply here.
Joseph
Joseph
Hi Henny,
Have you considered using the H5P Column Type activity? That way you can organize your content types into a column where you could layer your images and sound files between your Mark the Words questions. And since this sounds like a world language course, you could also include Speak the Words Set for students to submit answer verbally and have the Moodle H5P activity automatically score.
Have you considered using the H5P Column Type activity? That way you can organize your content types into a column where you could layer your images and sound files between your Mark the Words questions. And since this sounds like a world language course, you could also include Speak the Words Set for students to submit answer verbally and have the Moodle H5P activity automatically score.
The H5P Column Type is a great aggregator of various other H5P activity types. So you maybe will even come up with a variety of other H5P learnings activities organized into a SINGLE Moodle Activity.
Dag Dave,
No I didn't try that Column Type. With column I think of pieces in newspapers with an ironic text about politics and society. It didn't occur to me that it can be useful for my purpose.
But I'm going to try it.
Hgv, Henny
No I didn't try that Column Type. With column I think of pieces in newspapers with an ironic text about politics and society. It didn't occur to me that it can be useful for my purpose.
But I'm going to try it.
Hgv, Henny
Dag Dave, Joseph,
I came this far. Screenshot. 1. I found column. 2 From there I had to choose and I choose 'mark the words' and 3. How can I insert here? I don't see a button for it.
Mvg, Henny
I came this far. Screenshot. 1. I found column. 2 From there I had to choose and I choose 'mark the words' and 3. How can I insert here? I don't see a button for it.
Mvg, Henny
Hi Henny,
I think the same thing when I hear the word column, however with H5P it allows you do stack different activities in a sort of a long list of different learning activities. If you look at the H5P column third example you see how different activities can be stacked. https://h5p.org/column#example=54549
HP5 has some tutorial documentation https://h5p.org/documentation/for-authors/tutorials on their site, but there was not anything about columns. but they had a YouTube video on how to Mark the Word.
I think the same thing when I hear the word column, however with H5P it allows you do stack different activities in a sort of a long list of different learning activities. If you look at the H5P column third example you see how different activities can be stacked. https://h5p.org/column#example=54549
HP5 has some tutorial documentation https://h5p.org/documentation/for-authors/tutorials on their site, but there was not anything about columns. but they had a YouTube video on how to Mark the Word.
I did find a video that shows how a column works, was not done by H5P, but may show you some tips
Hi Henny,
there is no button in the Mark the Words activity. You just have to write the word(s) that students should click within *stars* and click Save. Then, the students see the whole text, they click the words which they think that apply and that's it.
Cheers!
there is no button in the Mark the Words activity. You just have to write the word(s) that students should click within *stars* and click Save. Then, the students see the whole text, they click the words which they think that apply and that's it.
Cheers!
Dag Beatriz,
The working of the text is not my problem. I understand that and it works. But I want to add pictures and particulary sound to the text, between the lines.
This is the idea:
https://static.digischool.nl/oefenen/hennyjellema/luisteren/steensoep/kortezinnen/lezen-01.htm
Dutch might not be your language, but if you listen to the first soundfile, you will not hear the word 'donkere' . That word is only in the written text, not in the sound.
The student listens to the sound. In the written text, there are too many words. The student has to click on the words he does NOT hear. This exercise is a very good listening execise for learning language.
Language teaching without sound is rather meaningless, since language is a sound-thing in the first place.
Mvg, Henny
Netherlands
The working of the text is not my problem. I understand that and it works. But I want to add pictures and particulary sound to the text, between the lines.
This is the idea:
https://static.digischool.nl/oefenen/hennyjellema/luisteren/steensoep/kortezinnen/lezen-01.htm
Dutch might not be your language, but if you listen to the first soundfile, you will not hear the word 'donkere' . That word is only in the written text, not in the sound.
The student listens to the sound. In the written text, there are too many words. The student has to click on the words he does NOT hear. This exercise is a very good listening execise for learning language.
Language teaching without sound is rather meaningless, since language is a sound-thing in the first place.
Mvg, Henny
Netherlands
Hello Henny,
this is a very nice activity. I also used HoPotatoes for a Spanish for foreigners course and I loved it. Personally, I find H5P more intuitive and it's also suited for mobile devices. I don't know how to replicate this activity in the Mark the Words activity. I have tried to insert the audio file in the Description field of the Moodle activity. The result functions well, but the appearance is not so neat as yours.
You can always propose this feature in the H5P forum.
this is a very nice activity. I also used HoPotatoes for a Spanish for foreigners course and I loved it. Personally, I find H5P more intuitive and it's also suited for mobile devices. I don't know how to replicate this activity in the Mark the Words activity. I have tried to insert the audio file in the Description field of the Moodle activity. The result functions well, but the appearance is not so neat as yours.
You can always propose this feature in the H5P forum.
Dag Beatriz,
You are much more positive about H5P than I am. I am very disappointed with it and once again notice how user-friendly Hot Potatoes is. It is unbelievable that in mark-the words- each sentence has to be entered separately, because only one picture or sound file can be added. We did not do that in the year 2000! I wonder which educator has been working here. I don't think that was a teacher, let alone a language teacher.
I hope I don't offend anyone here. If that's the case, please explain to me what the motive of the choices H5P makes.
Mvg, Henny
You are much more positive about H5P than I am. I am very disappointed with it and once again notice how user-friendly Hot Potatoes is. It is unbelievable that in mark-the words- each sentence has to be entered separately, because only one picture or sound file can be added. We did not do that in the year 2000! I wonder which educator has been working here. I don't think that was a teacher, let alone a language teacher.
I hope I don't offend anyone here. If that's the case, please explain to me what the motive of the choices H5P makes.
Mvg, Henny
I believe it is perfectly fine to ask these sorts of questions, as long as they are fair and balanced 
Hot Potatoes and H5P are very different applications.
Hot Potatoes requires to download software, and is quite Windows orientated. It provides 6 fairly simple activities.
H5P is completely web based, only needing a browser, and provides around 50 different content types, including some very advanced and sophisticated activities.
If you feel, as a language teacher, Hot Potatoes gives you a function that H5P does not, that's fine, and you can use that
Perhaps other language teachers would find things in H5P they prefer to Hot Potatoes?
The aim of H5P is certainly not "to support language teachers" - it's much bigger and broader than that as you can see from quickly looking at https://h5p.org
Hot Potatoes and H5P are very different applications.
Hot Potatoes requires to download software, and is quite Windows orientated. It provides 6 fairly simple activities.
H5P is completely web based, only needing a browser, and provides around 50 different content types, including some very advanced and sophisticated activities.
If you feel, as a language teacher, Hot Potatoes gives you a function that H5P does not, that's fine, and you can use that
Perhaps other language teachers would find things in H5P they prefer to Hot Potatoes?
The aim of H5P is certainly not "to support language teachers" - it's much bigger and broader than that as you can see from quickly looking at https://h5p.org
Dag Stuart,
I hoped nobody to offend, but it seems that I still did. Sorry.
I think that what you call 6 simple activities are basically are precisely the activities that contain all closed-question types, which are digitally possible and which you will find in all these platforms and programs. Not only with HP, H5P, but also with others. It is Jcloze, Matching, Multiple Choice, Mixing text. I think it indicates exactly what the digital possibilities are ultimately. (when it comes to closed questions) There are many variants and modifications for (also with Hot Potatoes!) but it comes down to these basic activities.
What was not possible for the computer age is to show / hear an individual student at the same time an image, sound and text. That was not possible for the digital age. You never had any noise, especially with paper. And sound is essential for language teaching.
My students always hear the pronunciation of a word before they can read it. And now I can use my computer. Only then will you get a good pronunciation. This is a didactic principle that is used, for example, by TPR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_physical_response). It is an internationally important starting point, which has contributed a lot to the learning of a foreign language.
Therefore I am surprised that H5P does not give priority to sound. Why does H5P have almost the same name as Hot Potatoes? That makes them more likely to be compared, while that may not be the case.
Apart from al this, I might be that I'm frustrated about H5P, since somebody advised me it as the solution of ll my problems with HP and Moodle. We should blame that person in the first place! ?
I hoped nobody to offend, but it seems that I still did. Sorry.
I think that what you call 6 simple activities are basically are precisely the activities that contain all closed-question types, which are digitally possible and which you will find in all these platforms and programs. Not only with HP, H5P, but also with others. It is Jcloze, Matching, Multiple Choice, Mixing text. I think it indicates exactly what the digital possibilities are ultimately. (when it comes to closed questions) There are many variants and modifications for (also with Hot Potatoes!) but it comes down to these basic activities.
What was not possible for the computer age is to show / hear an individual student at the same time an image, sound and text. That was not possible for the digital age. You never had any noise, especially with paper. And sound is essential for language teaching.
My students always hear the pronunciation of a word before they can read it. And now I can use my computer. Only then will you get a good pronunciation. This is a didactic principle that is used, for example, by TPR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_physical_response). It is an internationally important starting point, which has contributed a lot to the learning of a foreign language.
Therefore I am surprised that H5P does not give priority to sound. Why does H5P have almost the same name as Hot Potatoes? That makes them more likely to be compared, while that may not be the case.
Apart from al this, I might be that I'm frustrated about H5P, since somebody advised me it as the solution of ll my problems with HP and Moodle. We should blame that person in the first place!
Hi Henny,
I am following your discussion here on the forum. And I understand your frustration.
Though this said, I know you as thé specialist when it comes to HotPot use.
And if Hotpot works for you, keep using it. That would be my motto
The H5P name (if I am correct) is based on the fact it shows HTML5 content.
Have you check the H5P contenttypes https://h5p.org/speak-the-words-set en https://h5p.org/speak-the-words
I can imagine that these would be great tools to use in language teaching?
Gemma
Dag Gemma,
No, right now I'm trying out 'find the hotspot'. I'm a bit triggered by the idea with such a picture. I also run into one question there, but I will launch it as a new topic.
And of course I follow your advice above! Leuk je hier te treffen!
Hgv, Henny
No, right now I'm trying out 'find the hotspot'. I'm a bit triggered by the idea with such a picture. I also run into one question there, but I will launch it as a new topic.
And of course I follow your advice above!
Hgv, Henny