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MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet

 
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Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

Hi,

thanks for the quick answer.

So does this mean that the community hub functionality will also be cancelled soon or within the next years?

What were the big problems?

As far as I understood, project moodlenet will primarily be a social network of educators for sharing resources and literature and for collaboratively editing them. But not directly for sharing courses, right? Or would/will it be possible with project moodlenet that student SA of university A could enrol at the course B1 of university B?



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Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

Martin,

You're addressing the key issue, IMO, with MoodleNet -it's lack of focus on sharing Moodle courses. Sharing entire Moodle courses is what is desperately needed. 

What you're describing as a need is what is being created by the California Community College system so that they can share their OER courses via Canvas. It is also what is being created by the Minnesota State System so that they can share their OER courses via D2L Brightspace. It is what Schoology created so that the 40 OER courses created for

could be easily and quickly shared among the 206 participating Minnesota school districts which includes about 600,000 K12 students.

Moodle doesn't need to make itself into something it isn't. It is very good at being an LMS.

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Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 
Hi both, MoodleNet is going to content-agnostic, and export collections of resources as MBZ files. As such, it is entirely possible to share resources that unpack into courses.


(Dan, I'd respectfully ask you to refrain from repeatedly sharing the same content, and in particular the video you have posted many times now. Some may see this as spamming the forum)

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Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

Doug,

My previous post was directed to Martin, a new member of the discussion, who had likely not seen any of the previous posts where I linked to the Minnesota Partnership for Collaborative Curriculum. I am indeed guilty of promoting wider awareness of the free, teacher created, standards aligned OER curriculum that is specifically designed for use in Moodle. I'm even guilty of creating a non-profit corporation registered in Minnesota (the home of SPAM) dedicated to providing professional development for teachers to become more proficient at using OER with Moodle. 

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Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply. 

It's good to hear that similar ideas have already been established successfully.

But as I understand those projects created the courses (contents) centrally and then imported them to the local sites.

In our project we would like to directly login to a partner site and participate in their course.

Martin Dougiamas
Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

>  will it be possible with project moodlenet that student SA of university A could enrol at the course B1 of university B?

No, Martin, this is out of scope for the moment.  University logins/enrolments/authentication/payment is a very idiosyncratic and sensitive thing that we won't be tackling now.  What you are talking about is addressed by MNet, and needs to be very explicitly set up between particular Moodle sites.  

That said, I do hope the MoodleNet account/identity will become something you use to log into all sorts of education-related sites via Oauth, much like you can you use your Google/Facebook/Twitter account to log into many sites today. 

> the community hub functionality will also be cancelled soon or within the next years?

MoodleNet is designed to replace that, yes.  Including (most importantly) the sharing and curation of entire Moodle courses as well as individual Moodle activities in Moodle backup format.

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Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

Hi Martin,

As the sharing of courses will be a proof-of-concept, account creation/grade transfer could be done manually at the beginning (Q1 2020).

Later maybe it would make sense to use OAuth or alternatively eduroom logins.

> the community hub functionality will also be cancelled soon or within the next years?

> MoodleNet is designed to replace that, yes.  Including (most importantly) the sharing and curation of entire Moodle courses...

The problem is that we should have a first running prototype soon and a production-ready site Q3 2019. So I am afraid that Project MoodleNet will be in a too early stage at that time.

Does it make sense to still rely on the community hub functionality?

At least the publishing part? So then we could also implement our own front-end client for the central listing of published courses. We just needed the respective web-services API.

Thanks!




Martin Dougiamas
Re: MNet vs. moodle.net vs. Project MoodleNet
 

The publishing part (in Moodle) should be fine.  It's the hub that is no longer supported. 

However, that kind of sharing doesn't give you very much - it effectively just posts links with some metadata to a central place.   Any user that wants to go to a course on another site will still have to log in there etc so you'd need to organise OAuth or something as you said, more manually.